Hello, hello everybody welcome back to another episode of fluently forward. I am here with a very fun guest for kind of a forward thinking fluently forward episode. Eloise Skinner,

welcome to the show. How are you doing? Yeah, I'm great, thank you. Thank you so much for having me.

I'm so excited to chat with you. We were talking over email and you have this incredible

background, so you're a registered psychotherapist and an author and you specialize in this field called

Extestential Therapy and it's all about finding your identity in life, your meaning, your purpose,

your values, your ambitions, your community. your

meaning, your purpose, your values, your ambitions, your community. And I didn't even know that this was like a field somebody could work in.

So before we get into our episode today all about like celebrities identities and how we can harness kind of our own

identity and be really secure in that. How did you get into this field? Like how did you learn

about it and what kind of drew you into it? Yeah I I mean it was the same thing for me. I really didn't know that that field existed and it was a process of looking

for different types of meaning in my own life so trying to figure out where do I find a source of meaning or what's kind of the purpose of my life and I was previously working in law as a lawyer so I didn't really have any sense of my true kind of mission or purpose or really what I wanted to do is kind of just in this career that I've been studying from university.

And so I was looking around for different ways to practice finding meaning and purpose and I had no idea this whole field of therapy existed, but it's really a fascinating field and something I think is going to be so relevant as we continue to try and navigate our identity as the world changes and things like that.

I do I love it and some of these exercise we're going to kind of

spend the first half of the episode talking about celebrities who seem to struggle with

their identity and then the second half will be like what we as you know regular people can do for our

identity and I've kind of heard about some of these practices we're going to

talk about because my therapist I was meeting with her and talking about like online comments and how they bug me and how I don't know how to deal with it.

And she kind of read me for filth and was like, I think you have low self-esteem because you're so like easily moved and like affected by these things and she had me do

this work sheet where you know somebody shouts out like a hundred different words and you

write down 20 that really, really resonate with you and then you

pair that down into five and it's called like the true North values situation and

she was basically saying people don't you know you're so busy trying to pay the bills, go to work, do your laundry,

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