How to Find What Really Matters in a World Full of Noise

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🗓️ 21 May 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Soren Gordhamer shares how to find what really matters in a world full of noise. Soren is the founder of Wisdom 2.0, a global movement bridging mindfulness, compassion, and technology. He’s also the creator of the new conference Wisdom + AI and co-leads Wisdom Ventures, a fund investing in companies that combine profits with human-centered purpose.

We talk about what it means to live with intention in a time of constant distraction. Soren shares hard-won lessons from teaching meditation in a New York juvenile detention center to working alongside some of the world’s top tech leaders. This episode is a powerful reminder that while AI and external success may be evolving fast, the real work is upgrading our inner life—learning to listen, slow down, and connect to what truly matters before our limited heartbeats run out.

Some highlights we explore:

The hug that meant more than meditation – Why a teen in juvie showed up week after week for something deeper than a lesson.
“If you’re not available for magic…” – Soren on why putting down your phone might be the first step to real connection.
The right kind of hard – How to know when difficulty is actually a sign you’re on the right path.

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0:00.0	There'll be a moment where we're looking back and we're looking at how we decided to spend the limited
0:04.5	heartbeats that we have here. We're not quite sure when they're going to end, maybe tomorrow,
0:08.2	maybe 40 years from now. But there'll be a reflection probably that's like, wow, what really
0:12.5	mattered during this life? And there are ways that we can live more aligned with what actually
0:17.1	matters. And there's ways that we can kind of forget what actually matters and end up
0:21.0	on our deathbed and going, holy shit, what was that? Like, what was I doing? What was I thinking? Like,
0:25.0	I was just scrolling like this for like years and years. And then at the end, it's like, wow,
0:29.8	was that really how I wanted to spend my time? This episode is brought to you by my Latest Book, Never Play It Safe.
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