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PRETEND

How to find people who don’t want to be found

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

I recently spoke at the Triangle Content Creators Meetup in Raleigh, NC, about using OSINT techniques to locate and research your next guest. OSINT stands for Open Source Intelligence. As a journalist, I've teamed up with brilliant hackers like Mishaal Khan and Michael Bazzell to uncover new information about my subjects. In this talk, I explain how Alan Logan and I exposed Frank Abagnale and how Mishaal Khan and I investigated the Stalker case. I thought you might find this interesting. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Creative Apple.

0:06.0

Hey guys, it's me, Javier.

0:08.0

I know a lot of you are curious on how I find, locate, and research my guests?

0:13.7

Well, just recently, I had the opportunity

0:16.8

to speak at the Triangle Content Creators

0:19.4

Meet Up in Raleigh about just that,

0:22.0

how I find my guests.

0:24.0

And when you talk about this in public,

0:27.0

that's when you realize that you're borderline creepy.

0:31.0

But hey, that's the only way to do this investigative podcast so I'm going to play

0:36.4

you this live presentation that I did I start out with the Frank Abagnale story which

0:42.3

a lot of you know but don't worry the whole

0:44.3

thing is not about Frank Abagnale so if you're curious on how I find people this

0:49.4

is how I do it all right let's play the clip.

0:51.9

Have your label let me tell you a story it. All right, let's play the clip.

0:55.0

Have your label. Let me tell you a story. So this is back in 2018, maybe 2017.

1:00.0

I'm on a run and I look for a new podcast and I found the pretend podcast and I am going

1:08.0

up the hill and listening to this podcast and it was about cults, a cult in North Carolina and I just stopped on my

1:16.4

tracks and was like what is happening it was next level storytelling and so I

1:21.8

had to stop and figure out who the heck this guy

1:24.0

Javier was because I got the sense that he was local from whatever content was in

1:29.1

the podcast. I looked him up and found that he worked at Red Hat and that he had an

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