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🗓️ 1 August 2025
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A conversation with singer-songwriter Sara Bareilles and psychologist Dacher Keltner, recorded at the New York Times Well Festival, moderated by Dan. All three of them have dealt with anxiety and continue to work with it, and they discuss the ways they look for joy and sustainable wellness.
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0:00.0 | This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. |
0:07.7 | Hello, everybody. How we doing? |
0:28.4 | Sometimes I get invited to do some cool shit out in the world, and today we're going to bring some of that cool shit to you. |
0:32.4 | The New York Times, as you may know, has a whole vertical called Well. |
0:35.9 | That's about health, not just physical health, but also mental health. |
0:38.2 | And the editor of Well is a very smart woman named Lori Leibovic, who was actually my girlfriend in eighth grade at Charles |
0:44.7 | Brown Middle School, junior high in Newton, Massachusetts. Anyway, Lori recently organized the first |
0:51.5 | ever Well Festival in New York City back on May 7th, which |
0:55.5 | featured a number of great speakers, including many of the people who've been on this show, |
0:59.5 | longevity expert Peter Atira, the writer Seleka Jawad, the happiness researcher, Dr. Robert |
1:05.1 | Waldinger, to name just a few. And Lori asked me, and this is, I don't know if it qualifies as nepotism per se, |
1:12.1 | but something close to that. Lori asked me to take part in this amazing day-long event. |
1:16.4 | And I posted and contributed to a session called How to Find Joy in an Anxious World with two people |
1:24.1 | who've also been past guests on this show, the singer and writer Sarah Borellis |
1:29.1 | and the psychologist and academic Dacker Keltner. Sarah, Dacker, and I talked about panic attacks, |
1:35.2 | different things that we've all tried to manage our own anxiety, how being outside in nature |
1:39.8 | can be helpful, and how meditation does not have to look the same way for everybody. |
1:45.1 | It was a lot of fun, very interesting, and I am now very happy to share with you, said |
1:50.4 | conversation. |
1:51.1 | If you want to see video of the conversation along with everything else that happened at the festival, |
1:55.2 | that is all available over at New York Times.com slash well. |
1:59.2 | You can also read all of the well coverage and subscribe to the well newsletter, which is free. |
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