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This is on point. I'm Megyn Chakrabardi. Today, although I'm sad you can't see it, I am wearing the t-shirt I bought at Grand Teton National Park.

That's because one of the most eloquent advocates for America's natural spaces is here with me in the studio.

For decades, Terry Tempest Williams has been exploring America's wilderness, our religions, our ethical struggles, our history.

Not the boundaries between them, mind you, but how truly there should be no boundaries between

those ways of seeing the world at all.

She's the author of many books, including refugeuge, an unnatural history of family and place,

also the open space of democracy, and finding beauty in a broken world.

And in that book, she writes, quote,

Finding beauty in a broken world is creating beauty in the world we find.

To be whole, to be complete.

Wildness reminds us what it means to be human, what we are connected to, rather than what we are separate from.

Well, her latest book is out now, and it's called The Glorians.

Terry Tempest Williams, welcome back to the show.

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