When we're first meet somebody, we have lust when we try to make love. And when we're in a long-term

relationship, we now have love. You just have to make lust. And making lust is substantially

easier than making love. Hi, hello. Welcome to Mary's Cup of Tea, the self-love podcast for women.

Though all self-lovers are welcome here. I'm Mary. I write and speak about self-love,

and I'm best known for my book, The Gift of Self-Love, and I also host retreats for women.

And this is the podcast that will inspire you to love yourself. Real quick, before we dive in,

I want to make sure you know about my book, The Gift of Self-Love. It's a workbook

to help you build confidence, recognize your worth, and learn to love who you are. It's available

anywhere books are sold. Thousands of people have it, love it, and have told me that it has greatly

benefited their self-love journey, and I hope it'll do the same for you. And now let's get into the

podcast. I have such a sexy treat for you today, which calls for a dramatic sip of tea

right off the bat, because we're talking about sex, baby, with Shan Boudrum, a guest who I've been wanting to talk to

for so long. And I honestly can't believe this interview happened. I've been a fan of

Shan Boodrums for eight years since I was with my ex and was having like bedroom issues.

So I started Googling stuff and she popped up. And ever since I have just been

implementing everything that she says, because she is the expert on modern sex, intimacy, and

relationships. In case you're unfamiliar with Chan Boudrum, she is an AASECT, a certified sex educator, an American Board of Sexology certified

sexologist with an MS in psychology as well. She's best known for her work on Netflix's

Too Hot to Handle and as the host of The Lovers by Shan podcast. She has mainstream coverage

all across major media networks, including The Today Show, ABC Good Morning America, the talk, the real, the view.

She's also the bestselling author of her book, The Game of Desire, which was acclaimed by Time, Apple, Glammer, and Refinery 29.

She's also part owner of ARIA, which is a subscription service for couples, and Bumble's sex and relationship expert, as well as a long withstanding member

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