Agism in hiring is against the law. It's also a fact of life in today's job market.

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This is Mac Pritchard, founder of Max List.

I've interviewed more than 600 career experts since Find Your Dream Job started in 2015.

The advice he's guest shared remains as valuable as ever.

So every other week, we're publishing one of our most popular conversations.

Here's a classic episode I think you'll enjoy. This is Find Your Dream Job, the podcast that helps you get hired, have the career you want, and make a difference in life.

I'm your host, Mack Pritchard. I'm also the founder of Mack's List. It's a job board in the Pacific Northwest that helps you find a fulfilling career.

Every Wednesday, I talk to a different expert about the tools you need to find the work you want.

Almost every hiring manager you meet will ask why you're looking for work and what you say can make or sync your application.

Here to talk about how to explain why you're looking for another job

is Susan Peppercorn. She's the author of the book, Ditch Your Inner Critic at Work,

evidence-based strategies to thrive in your career. Susan is also a contributor to the Harvard

Business Review. She joins us today from Boston, Massachusetts. Well, Susan, here's where I'd like to

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