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Coming to headphones near you on can agree not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures.

Talk about genius.

Talk about generational talent.

Coming to headphones near you on April 17th,

with a first guess you won't want to miss.

Available wherever you get your podcasts.

I think what people often do in friendship

is that they let it kind of slide away

as they move the pieces of the rest of their life, like romantic

partnerships and careers and family.

And I really don't want people to treat friendship as so disposable, really.

Welcome to how to.

I'm Courtney Martin.

We are continuing our series on friendship. So last week we talked about expanding our horizons with new cross-generational friendships. And today we're going to look at our existing friendships and how they evolve. Listen, people change, right? We move. We have kids or don't. we stop partying like we used to. We just get older.

And hopefully we get clearer about who we really are and what we want and need from our

relationships. Now, in the midst of all that, how do we take an old friendship and breathe new

life into it? That's what we're going to figure out today.

Thanks to a brave listener, we're calling Michelle.

I've been friends with Blair since grad school, which is well over a decade now.

Our eyes met across the room in a grad school auditorium, and it was love at first sight.

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