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How to empower the next generation of pilots | Refilwe Ledwaba

TED Business

TED

Business Leadership Podcast, Modupe Akinola, Ted Modupe, Ted Business Podcast, Ted Talks, Business, Ted Talks Business

4.01.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

What does it take to fly a plane? For TED Fellow Refilwe Ledwaba, it took perseverance and drive — and an instructor who took the time to teach to her learning style. Today, as founder of Girls Fly Africa, Ledwaba is empowering the next generation of pilots, particularly young women, with the engineering skills, professional networks and hands-on experience they need to take flight into a sky-high career.


After the talk, Modupe shares tips on how you can go the extra step as a mentor.



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0:00.0

Between work and my personal life, I travel a lot.

0:04.9

I mean a lot.

0:06.9

And yet I can probably count on two hands the number of times I've looked into the cockpit

0:12.3

of a plane and seen a woman pilot, let alone a woman pilot of color.

0:18.1

But today, we're going to hear from someone who beat those odds to become the first

0:23.1

black woman in South Africa to fly helicopters. A flight instructor herself, she's here to tell us

0:30.0

how thoughtful mentorship changed the course of her life and how she applies it to her own

0:35.1

teaching.

0:39.9

I'm a dupe acanola.

0:42.9

This is Ted Business, a podcast from TED.

0:46.5

Refilwe LaDwaba started out as an air hostess.

0:49.9

Now she's a pilot and the founder of Girls Fly Africa.

0:51.0

In this talk,

0:55.9

Refilway breaks down how her mentors went out of their way to understand her untapped talents and the systemic barriers she faced and how that approach made all the

1:01.4

difference.

1:02.2

Then after the talk, we'll reflect on the power of proactive mentorship and how to bring that

1:07.4

energy into our own work spaces.

1:10.3

But first, a quick break.

1:16.8

And now, Refilwe-Ladwaba takes the TED stage.

1:23.0

Sometimes we tend to make people part of the problem only, but we don't make people

1:26.7

part of the success. We quit to say, oh, these were my challenges, but we don't make people part of the success.

1:31.8

We're quick to say, oh, these were my challenges, but we're not quick to say, but this person remove this barrier, and this person removed this one.

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