Hi, everyone. It's Meredith from Women Who Travel. Lale and I are starting to record new episodes from where I am in Texas and where she is in New York, which you'll start hearing over the next few weeks. In the meantime, we're bringing back one of our favorite episodes from last year. As we all spend more time taking solitary walks and relishing in FaceTime and Zoom-based friendships, it made sense to share

this episode where two best friends practice the French art of flanoring or wandering without

intention. Since most of us have been forced to slow down, here's an episode all about doing

just that. Hi, this is Women Who Travel, a podcast from Kondayas Traveler.

I'm Laleigh Ari Coglu, and with me, as always, is my wonderful co-host Meredith Carey.

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And for this week's episode, we're joined by Erica Owen, author of The Art of the Entrepreneuring, How to Wander with Intention and Discover

A Better Life.

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And sex and wellness writer and women who travel columnist Laura Delarato to talk about how,

well, we all just need to slow down a bit when we're traveling.

Whenever I'm in a new place, I feel a constant pressure to do everything.

I need to eat at the coolest restaurants, shop the coolest shops,

see that Instagrammable, weird art thing that everyone's seeing,

and prove that I was there.

And I often end up missing out on the best thing about travel,

which is actually getting to know a place.

And Erica, you've kind of written an entire book about this very thing.

Yes, all 200 pages are about essentially that idea that you just said.

And to the uninitiated, what is flanuring?

Sure. So, flanoring, there's a good chance you've already done it.

It's kind of like huga in that you're very familiar with the feeling of it, but you don't necessarily, you didn't know there was a already done it. It's kind of like Huga and that you're very familiar with the

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