4.7 • 4.2K Ratings
🗓️ 10 May 2019
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Constant smart phone use may not be great for us, but what are we supposed to do instead? Artist and writer Jenny Odell explores how we reclaim our time and attention in her new book, How to Do Nothing.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to Call Your Girlfriend. |
0:02.0 | A podcast for long-distance besties everywhere. |
0:04.6 | I'm Amina Tuso. |
0:06.4 | And I'm Anne Friedman. |
0:07.7 | I talk to the artist and writer Jenny O'Dell, |
0:11.3 | who has a new book called How to Do Nothing, |
0:14.3 | Resisting the Attention Economy. |
0:16.3 | And a lot of her book is about how you can't just tell people, |
0:22.0 | don't look at your phone so much. |
0:23.3 | You kind of have to retrain or help them think about |
0:28.0 | other places they could or should be putting the attention |
0:31.2 | that they currently give to say social media. |
0:55.4 | Hi, I'm Friedman. |
0:57.2 | Hi, hi. How's it going? |
0:58.8 | Going. |
1:00.8 | I asked you first. |
1:03.7 | I believe we asked each other at the same time. |
1:07.4 | Oh my god. Okay, well, I will tell you, |
1:09.6 | I know I told you this over text message, |
1:11.2 | but we have not talked about it, |
1:12.5 | which is that I was hiking yesterday, |
1:14.3 | and I almost stepped on a baby rattlesnake. |
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