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The Upgrade by Lifehacker

How to Do Nothing, WIth Artist and Educator Jenny Odell

The Upgrade by Lifehacker

Lifehacker

Tech News, News, How To, Education, Self-improvement

4.6688 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2019

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

We all think we’re experts at “doing nothing,” but there’s a difference between numbing out by staring at Facebook and truly letting your mind rest. There are concrete benefits to doing absolutely nothing—like actually being present in your life and noticing what’s around you. To help us constructively veg out, we’ve brought in essayist Pico Iyer, Lifehacker’s Human Resource Columnist Rob Walker, and artist and educator Jenny Odell, whose new book teaches us how to resist the “attention economy.” We recommend listening with your feet up and your eyes closed.

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Hello, and welcome to the Upgrade, the podcast from the team at Lifehacker, where we help you improve your life one week at a time.

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I'm Melissa Kirsch, editor-in-chief of Lifehacker.

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And I'm Alice Bradley, Lifehacker's deputy editor.

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And today we're talking about how to do nothing.

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You may think, as I do, that you are an expert in doing nothing.

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You may believe that you cannot possibly be more of a lazybones, but we're not talking about sitting on your couch,

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alternately watching SportsCenter and scrolling for Instagram. Doing nothing is more than just relaxing.

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