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The Upgrade by Lifehacker

How to Do Less, With Journalist Celeste Headlee

The Upgrade by Lifehacker

Lifehacker

Tech News, News, How To, Education, Self-improvement

4.6688 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2020

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Are you feeling burnt out? Do you find yourself working MORE, not less, even while working from home? Award-winning journalist Celeste Headlee joins us on The Upgrade this week to talk about how the toxic culture of busyness is harming both our brains and our bodies, and what we can do about it. Celeste is the author of We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter, and most recently, Do Nothing: How to Break Away from Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving

Later in the show, hear Lifehacker’s health editor Beth Skwarecki speak with mental health expert Dr. Sanam Hafeez about how to navigate this psychologically stressful time for ourselves and our kids. 

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I'm Melissa Kirsch, editor-in-chief of

1:11.4

Lifehacker. And I'm Alice Bradley, Lifehacker's deputy editor. And today we're talking about how to do

1:17.0

less. We're talking with journalist Celeste Headley, author of the book Do Nothing, How to Break Away from

1:22.2

Overworking, Overdoing, and Underliving. Celeste spoke with us about the toxic culture of

1:26.6

busyness, how that is playing out

1:28.4

now that many of us are working from home, and why Zoom might not always be the best way to connect

1:33.4

with people. Right now, our Zoom calls and our Skype calls are also associated very much with work.

1:39.7

So it's okay to not Zoom. It is okay to use the phone.

1:45.9

Longtime upgrade listeners might remember our talk with Celeste last year about how to be a better conversationalist.

1:51.7

And if you haven't yet heard that episode, we highly recommend checking it out.

1:55.2

Later in the show, we'll also be hearing from psychologist Sanam Hafiz.

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