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Explain It to Me

How to destroy the suburbs

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 March 2021

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Matt and Dara are joined by Vox Politics and Policy Fellow Jerusalem Demsas to talk about how to take on America's housing problem, exclusionary and discriminatory zoning restrictions, message against NIMBYs, and ultimately, to sue and destroy the suburbs. Then, research is analyzed that confronts the effects of rising prescription drug prices on patient behavior. Resources: "America's racist housing rules really can be fixed" by Jerusalem Demsas, Vox (Feb. 17, 2021) "How to convince a NIMBY to build more housing" by Jerusalem Demsas, Vox (Feb. 24, 2021) "How George Floyd's death is fueling a push for affordable housing in mostly White parts of D.C." by Paul Schwartzmann, Washington Post (March 1, 2021) "Homeowners and Opposition to Housing Development" by William Marble and Clayton Nall (Feb. 6, 2020) "HUD can't fix exclusionary zoning by withholding CDBG funds" by Jenny Schuetz, Brookings (Oct. 15, 2018) "Stuck! The Law and Economics of Residential Stability" by David Schleicher, Yale Law Journal (Vol. 127, 2017) The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together, by Heather McGhee (2021) White paper Hosts: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Dara Lind (@DLind), Immigration Reporter, ProPublica Jerusalem Demsas (@JerusalemDemsas), Politics and Policy Fellow, Vox Credits: Erikk Geannikis, Editor and Producer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sue the suburbs.

0:06.0

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:18.2

I'm Matthew Iglesias here with ProPublica's Darryl Lind and Jerusalem Demsys from Vox.com.

0:24.3

Jerusalem, welcome to the show for your first time ever.

0:27.3

But I think not the last, hello.

0:30.1

Hi, happy to be here.

0:32.1

So Jerusalem has written a couple of big articles recently on a topic that Weeds fans know

0:38.3

is near and dear to my heart, housing in America and zoning policy.

0:44.0

And want to talk about that stuff.

0:46.8

Just to start with a, you know, dime store overview of housing in the United States.

0:53.0

In many communities, it is very expensive to get a house.

0:57.1

The price is related to the underlying price of land.

1:02.1

But we have technologies that allow you to put more houses on a given piece of land,

1:07.4

such as apartment buildings, row houses, people can live in basement apartments.

1:11.5

There's lots of things that can be done.

1:13.4

But this is often illegal.

1:15.3

We find large swaths of major cities and even larger swaths of their suburbs have rules

1:22.4

saying you can only have single family detached houses.

1:26.0

Sometimes those houses have to be in large lots.

1:28.7

There are a lot of restrictions.

1:30.4

You can't just, you know, tack on an extra bedroom and rent it out to somebody.

1:35.3

And a big topic in the policy world is how can we alleviate those constraints and get

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