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I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

How to Debate 20 Progressive Christians at Once with Allie Beth Stuckey

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

How do you address progressive arguments from 20 liberal "Christians" against the historic Christian faith with truth and grace? Look no further than the recent Jubilee debate with Allie Beth Stuckey, author and host of the popular 'Relatable' podcast, who impressed even non-Christians with her amazing performance. This week, Allie joins Frank to pull back the curtain on what happened behind the scenes during the debate while answering questions like:* How did Allie get started speaking about Christian political and cultural engagement?* What made Allie’s Jubilee appearance resonate even with skeptics?* What impact did Charlie Kirk have on Allie’s decision to appear on the show?* What surprised Allie the most when the debate started?* Does truth and morality change with culture?* Was Jesus progressive?* Is there a biblical connection between slavery and homosexuality?* What happens when “toxic empathy” replaces biblical truth?* What is "misplaced mothering" and how does it wreak havoc on society?If you’ve ever wondered how to stand your ground in a culture that calls good evil and evil good, this episode is for you! Don’t miss this powerful conversation that will challenge Christians to think clearly and hold fast to truth in a culture that keeps shifting its moral compass.If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Donate to CrossExamined.org (http://crossexamined.org/) - https://donor.crossexamined.org/ (https://donor.crossexamined.org/)Jubilee: 1 Conservative Christian vs. 20 Liberal Christians - https://youtu.be/BUjeVodnbzA (https://youtu.be/BUjeVodnbzA) Allie's TPUSA Speech at LSU - https://youtu.be/7_TPBvyAZIU?si=cQdIKG4uYTfekqcq (https://youtu.be/7_TPBvyAZIU?si=cQdIKG4uYTfekqcq) Watch the Relatable Podcast - https://www.youtube.com/@AllieBethStuckey (https://www.youtube.com/@AllieBethStuckey) Allie's website - https://www.alliebethstuckey.com/ (https://www.alliebethstuckey.com/)Toxic Empathy - https://www.toxicempathy.com/ (https://www.toxicempathy.com/)

Transcript

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Ladies and gentlemen, virtually every book in the New Testament in some way talks about false teachers.

0:09.0

And the Apostle Paul, speaking about false teachers in 2 Corinthians 10, says this to the people he's writing to.

0:18.0

He says, I beg you that when I come, I may not have to be as bold as I expect to be

0:23.5

towards some people who think that we live by the standards of this world. For though we live in the

0:29.1

world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not weapons of the world.

0:34.4

On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

0:39.0

We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God,

0:45.8

and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. And get this, here's what he

0:51.4

says right after that. And we will be ready to punish every act of disobedience once your obedience is complete.

1:00.9

Whoa.

1:01.9

Paul is coming after the people at Corinth because they're following false teachers.

1:06.7

And when he arrives, he's going to punish their acts of disobedience.

1:11.9

And, you know, in our culture today, it's almost the opposite.

1:15.1

We want to defer to people that are Christians, but not obeying the scriptures.

1:20.7

And our question today is, who is the standard of truth and righteousness?

1:24.1

Is it you or God?

1:25.1

Is it you are the Bible?

1:26.3

Is it some progressive teacher who is

1:28.3

tickling your ears or is it Jesus and the apostles? Well, someone who is standing up for the truth

1:36.8

and is doing it very well for many years now, but especially in the past couple of months is my friend Ali Beth Stucky.

1:45.7

Many of you know Ali.

1:47.4

She has a great podcast.

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