meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration

How To Create Change By Arguing The Other Side with Diana Chapman

Care More Be Better: A Podcast For Sustainable Social Impact and Regeneration

Corinna Bellizzi

Personal Journals, Earth Sciences, Society & Culture, Documentary, Science

51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In this engaging episode, Diana Chapman, a renowned facilitator, author, and leadership coach, joins the conversation to discuss conscious leadership, resolving conflict, and reducing drama in personal and professional relationships. With over 1,000 top-tier leaders from companies like Genentech and Asana as her clients, Diana brings unique insights on improving human connections through curiosity, empathy, and the practice of arguing the other side. Originally published in June 2022.


Key Topics Discussed:

  1. The Full-Body Yes: Diana introduces the concept of the "Full-Body Yes," derived from Gay and Kathlyn Hendricks. She explains how aligning head, heart, and gut can lead to more impactful decisions by tapping into all forms of intelligence (IQ, EQ, and Body Intelligence).
  2. Curiosity in Conflict: Diana emphasizes curiosity as a powerful tool for resolving conflict and building bridges across differing perspectives. By asking open-ended questions with genuine interest, we create room for understanding and connection.
  3. Arguing the Other Side: Diana shares how she helps teams and individuals improve their decision-making by encouraging them to argue for the opposing side of a debate. This practice can reduce righteousness and open minds to different perspectives.
  4. Drama Triangle: Diana explains the Drama Triangle (Victim, Villain, and Hero) and how it perpetuates reactive behaviors in conflicts. She discusses how stepping out of the triangle and taking radical responsibility can transform relationships and promote constructive dialogue.
  5. Climate Change and Activism: Addressing climate activism, Diana offers a fresh perspective by encouraging activists to shift out of the Drama Triangle and embrace curiosity. This allows for more effective change without falling into judgmental or righteous mindsets.
  6. Radical Responsibility: The conversation touches on the importance of taking ownership of the circumstances we create, both in our personal lives and leadership roles. Diana encourages listeners to examine how they contribute to the dynamics they face and shift from blame to responsibility.


Key Takeaways:

  • Curiosity Leads to Transformation: Staying open and curious in conversations, even with opposing views, helps foster creativity and problem-solving.
  • Arguing the Other Side: This practice deepens understanding and reduces defensiveness, leading to more thoughtful decisions.
  • Awareness of Drama Patterns: Recognizing how we fall into the Drama Triangle is essential for shifting into conscious, solution-oriented leadership.
  • Climate Activism Beyond Drama: Effective activism comes from conscious leadership, not judgment or blame, allowing for more impactful and sustainable solutions.
  • Morning Tears Practice: Diana shares her practice of starting the day with "morning tears," allowing herself to feel heartbreak as a way to stay connected to humanity and present.


This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to enhance their leadership skills, improve their personal relationships, or make a positive impact in the world by staying curious, open, and responsible.


JOIN OUR CIRCLE. BUILD A GREENER FUTURE:

🌴 Subscribe to our newsletter, and we'll plant a tree in your honor! https://circleb.co

🌲 Subscribe and rate us wherever you listen, and we'll plant another tree

🌳 Shop our cause-before-commerce store and support earth-first charities through our partnership with 1% For The Planet.


Follow us on social media:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter

TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter and https://tiktok.com/@circleb.co

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/CareMore.BeBetter

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better


Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

As November 5th approaches, it's time to bring you back into my way back machine.

0:06.0

The election cycle is in full swing, and I really feel inspired today to share an episode that I

0:11.8

recorded in 2022 with Diana Chapman. This was that season's most popular episode with good reason.

0:20.3

You see, Diana helps us to remember that even when

0:23.3

polarity and divisiveness seek to separate us, we can find common ground and create positive

0:29.5

change in our lives, at work, and in the community around us. The episode's subtitle,

0:35.8

How to Create Change by Arguing the Other Side, tells you almost everything you need to know about this episode.

0:43.1

She is an amazing leader who's been featured in all sorts of podcasts, including that of Tim Ferriss.

0:50.1

She talks about divisiveness.

0:51.7

She talks about culture.

0:53.2

She talks about overcoming the incessant nature of arguing and getting to true communication.

1:00.2

We can learn from her, and I hope that you'll learn with her today, along with me.

1:06.3

I think you'll very much appreciate her perspective no matter who you plan to vote for this November.

1:11.9

So without further ado, here is Diana.

1:15.6

You don't need mentors and guides.

1:19.2

It's in you.

1:20.3

You just need to get in a state of curiosity and openness so that you can relax and find out what's needed. And you know that yourself.

1:29.4

And I have not seen that ever not be true.

1:32.7

Welcome to Care More Be Better, a podcast for people like you who care about the social impact

1:38.9

of conscious companies and everyday heroes. Here inspiring stories from those who put people and planet before profit and personal gain.

1:47.4

You'll learn how you can make a difference.

1:49.4

Vote with your dollars and get involved today.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Corinna Bellizzi, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Corinna Bellizzi and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.