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A Matter of Degrees

How To Cope with All the Climate Feels

A Matter of Degrees

Dr. Leah Stokes, Dr. Katharine Wilkinson

Government, Society & Culture

4.8533 Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

This episode is all about feelings. You've heard the phrase "climate grief," right? But how do we deal with what it does to our hearts, minds, and bodies? And how might it impact the climate action we take?


This episode features Dr. Britt Wray, a Stanford-based author and researcher on climate and mental health; somatic coach and climate grief worker, Selin Nurgün; and Zen priest and Environmental Defense Fund senior scientist, Dr. Kritee Kanko. Check out Britt's weekly newsletter Gen Dread and her recent book Generation Dread. And learn more about the grief rituals Kritee facilitates through Boundless in Motion and the Rocky Mountain Ecodharma Retreat Center


In this episode, we discuss Joanna Macy and The Work That Reconnects, as well as public rituals such as the glacier memorial created by Dr. Cymene Howe and Dr. Dominic Boyer. And we quote some wise folks whose work you should check out: Resmaa Menakem, Sherri Mitchell, and Dr. Susi Moser.


If you're struggling with climate distress, you might want to explore the Climate Psychology Alliance's directory of climate-aware therapists, the Good Grief Network's 10-step program, Plum Village's online retreats, or the embodied approaches of Generative Somatics. If you're looking for an approach based in conversation and community, try All We Can Save Circles, Climate Cafes, or Climate Awakening (created by Dr. Margaret Klein Salamon).


The guided meditation at the end of the episode was created by Katharine for The All We Can Save Project's Climate Wayfinding program.


Next time, we'll look at the climate impact of crypto. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and don't miss a single episode this season.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Just an FYI before we get started, we're going to be talking about feelings today, specifically climate-related feelings.

0:08.0

So if you're having a day when you're not quite ready for that, you might want to come back to this episode at another time.

0:14.0

The moment you allow the enormity of climate crisis and the larger ecological crisis,

0:24.6

what's happening to our oceans, soils, coral reefs, you're just naturally are bound to feel enormous grief.

0:34.6

On this show, we talk a lot about what we can do to address climate change.

0:40.2

But today, we want to talk about what climate change is doing to us, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually.

0:47.9

The toll that climate change takes on our personal lives, on our emotions, it's growing.

0:52.7

It's layering on top of all the other burdens that we have in our lives, in our emotions, it's growing. It's layering on top of all the other burdens that we

0:55.2

have in our lives, in our communities, and society. In the mini-series that opened our season,

1:00.7

we asked, what can we do? Today, we're asking a different but equally vital question. How can we

1:07.4

cope? This is a matter of degrees, stories for the climate curious.

1:13.1

I'm Dr. Leah Stokes.

1:14.6

And I'm Dr. Catherine Wilkinson.

1:16.6

Today, we're sharing three stories of people who got swallowed up by difficult climate emotions

1:21.7

and found a way through them.

1:28.1

The psychological impacts of the climate crisis aren't new, but as a society, we're just

1:33.9

beginning to create language to name and describe them.

1:37.5

The term ecological grief was first used by Aldo Leopold to describe the distress we feel

1:43.1

when our lands become increasingly unrecognizable.

1:46.7

And Glenn Albrecht invented the word Tara Fury, literally earth rage, to express the deep anger

1:52.3

and resulting helplessness that we feel about ecological destruction. There's never going to be a

1:58.1

single word or phrase that captures the avalanche of emotions we feel as the climate crisis worsens.

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