I am so fortunate in that since I launched this podcast on the BBC in 2018, I have had long,

deep conversations with people I really admire, some of whom have written outstanding books that I've loved. And one such

person is Daniel Goldman. Daniel Goldman is the author of the Bloomsbury bestseller

emotional intelligence, which sold millions of copies. And Daniel argues persuasively that emotional

intelligence is more important for getting on in life

than, for example, IQ.

And in this bite-sized episode, we have a clip of Daniel in which he explains what emotional

intelligence is.

And another thing that I have been very grateful to witness over the last seven years of recording

this podcast is to join the dots between different stories and experiences. And as anyone who has

read my book will know, one of my favourite sporting stories involves the TeamGB women's hockey team who won Olympic gold at the

2016 Rio Olympics. And I've interviewed Alex Stanson and Kate and Helen Richardson Walsh,

as well as Danny Kerry. And Danny Kerry was the coach for the 2008 Olympic Games,

2012 and 2016. And in 2008, the British team finished

seventh. In 2012, they finished third and in 2016, they got the gold medal. Now, in 2008,

even though they finished higher than their world ranking, Danny Kerry was nearly let go by Team

GB at the end of that Olympic cycle because his relationships with his staff members and with his

players had disintegrated somewhat. After that games, he received some pretty brutal feedback and

he realized he had to go away and rethink how he related to other people

during the pressure cooker environment of an Olympic Games. And that involved him developing

emotional intelligence. And by the time the 2016 Olympics had rolled around, Danny Kerry

had worked up a short list of questions that is the best

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