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How To!: ‘Chaos Cook’ With Samin Nosrat

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🗓️ 7 March 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Cooking is one of the most basic human activities. We’ve probably been doing it since the discovery of fire and, yet, it’s more than just fuel. It’s culture. It’s comfort. It’s increasingly content. The problem is when we have such high expectations for something so simple and vital, we can find ourselves, well…paralyzed with doubt. Not to mention hungry. On this episode of How To!, host Carvell Wallace brings on Samin Nosrat, author of Salt Fat Acid Heat, who talks with food writer, Rachel Baron, about managing emotions in the kitchen. They dive deep on what it means to manage (and harness) feelings of chaos, how to stop comparing yourself to Instagram chefs, and how to feed not just yourself, but your soul.  If you liked this episode, check out: “How To Stress-Bake with Claire Saffitz” and “How To Cook One Perfect Meal.” Do you wonder how best to use your time? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on How To!. Sign up now at slate.com/howtoplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

It kind of sounds like you're somebody who's been enjoying playing the

0:04.5

cello for 15 years, a few hours a week, but is upset that you're not yo-yo-ma.

0:11.8

And you have no reason to be yo-yo-ma because he's a professional.

0:16.3

Yeah, I know.

0:20.7

Welcome to How To. I'm Carvo Wallace, cooking. It's one of the most basic human

0:26.9

activities. We've probably been doing it since the discovery of fire, and yet it's

0:31.0

still something that we obsess over, like constantly think about, and now we even

0:35.6

make content out of it. When I was in high school, I had this humanity's

0:39.5

teacher that said, the thing that separates humans from animals is that we take

0:43.8

food, clothing, and shelter, and we turn them into these things with a

0:48.8

capital T. Like we're trying to seek a balance between fueling ourselves on the

0:53.4

one hand and the culture, comfort, ego stroking, belonging, and maybe even

0:58.0

frivolity we find in food on the other. But here's the thing, when you have such

1:04.1

high expectations for something so simple and vital, you can find yourself

1:09.1

well paralyzed without not to mention hungry. What I struggle with the most is

1:18.1

battling my lack of technical skill. I think I'm a pretty good home cook, but

1:25.0

sometimes I wish I was better at this, not just so I can eat a better product, but

1:31.2

also just it's empowering to feel like you're great at something, and especially

1:35.8

something you do every day. That's Rachel Baron. She's a food writer and

1:40.1

someone who fell in love with cooking as a kid. Eating is responsible for many of

1:44.5

my strongest memories. My mom cooked and she put a lot of love into her food,

1:50.2

but it wasn't something that she saw as like an art or like a hobby or

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