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The Rich Roll Podcast

How to Change Your Brain With Dr. Andrew Huberman (+ Utkarsh!)

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.812.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 July 2020

⏱️ 162 minutes

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Summary

You can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Past the ripe age of 25, we are fully cooked; calcified in our ways. So dispense with the idea of learning a new language, skill, or thought pattern—it’s just not happening. But what if that idea is simply false? What if I told you that you actually have the power to change your brain and reprogram your perception, irrespective of age? This is the life’s work of today’s guest, Andrew Huberman, Ph.D. A neuroscientist and tenured professor in the Department of Neurobiology at Stanford University School of Medicine, Andrew specializes in neuroplasticity--the brain's ability to reorganize and repair itself by forming new neural connections throughout life. In addition, his work in the Huberman Lab at Stanford has been featured on the pages of Science, Discover, Scientific American, Time, and the New York Times, not to mention countless peer-reviewed journals. First and foremost, this is a conversation about what it really takes to shift our thought patterns. A master class on all things neuroplasticity, Dr. Huberman walks us through the brain's inherent ability to modify itself based on experience and how we can advantageously leverage this process--through focus, mindfulness and restorative sleep--to not only learn new skills but also improve all essential aspects of well-being. We cover his research in self-motivation, and how we can hijack our dopamine systems and optimize stress to move forward in difficult situations. We discuss the inner workings of our nervous systems and how we can use our physical bodies—our diaphragms and visual systems—to access and optimize certain states of mind. And we also explore Dr. Huberman’s personal transformation. How he transcended family dysfunction and his days as a punk rock skater truant. And the most unlikely path he blazed to becoming the celebrated scientist he is today. Andrew teaches us that to shift the way that you function, changing your behavior is the first step. I just see it as the science backing my favorite mantra -- mood follows action. The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. The Appetizer: People seemed to enjoy my previous brief check-in segments with Mishka Shubaly and Nadia Bolz-Weber so I thought I’d do it again. Today’s main course warm-up comes courtesy of my friend Utkarsh Ambudkar, the linguistically dexterous musician, actor and rapper longtime listeners will recall from RRP #373. The occasion is the release of We Are Freestyle Love Supreme--a must see documentary that chronicles a tribe of über-talented artists--including UTK and one Lin-Manuel Miranda--from humble beginnings to Broadway superstardom. I love this film. Check it immediately on Hulu (and no, this is not a sponsored thing). I am super impressed by Andrew, his story and the crucial work he is doing. And grateful for the practical tools graciously shared today. May this exchange serve to expand your perception, capabilities, and worldview. Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0

The human animal is amazing at making plans, at modifying its brain if it wants to.

0:07.5

But the human brain and the human animal are also dreadfully bad at doing what's best

0:13.3

for us.

0:14.3

What I think it comes down to is the fact that our reward systems are not designed for

0:19.0

things that are just good for us.

0:20.8

They're designed for things that optimize the progression of our species, but they're

0:25.0

also they will grab onto and ratchet into any behavior that makes us feel good.

0:31.4

And so the human brain is really not optimized for making best choices.

0:37.1

But I think we need to get comfortable as a culture in trying to understand our species

0:42.3

and how we work, that the early stages of hard work and focus are going to feel like

0:47.6

agitation, stress and confusion.

0:50.5

Because that's the norepinephrine and adrenaline system kicking in.

0:55.1

None of us would expect to walk into the gym and do our PR lift or a performer go do something

1:01.1

without warming up.

1:02.4

The brain also needs to warm up and start to hone in which circuits are going to be active.

1:07.2

And it's unreasonable for us to think, oh, I've got an hour, I'm going to plop down and

1:10.1

write beautifully for an hour or my best work.

1:13.1

We need to accept that there's a period of agitation and stress that accompanies the dropping

1:17.4

into these highly concentrated states.

1:20.4

Our feelings and our thoughts and our memories and all that is very complicated, but behaviors

1:25.3

are very concrete and they are the control panel for the rest of it.

1:31.0

I don't want to relegate feelings.

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