The following podcast is a deer media production.

She's a lifestyle blogger extraordinaire and he's a serial entrepreneur,

a very smart cookie. And now Lauren Evertson, Michael Bostick,

are bringing you along for the ride. Get ready for some major realness.

Welcome to the skinny confidential him and her.

I think a lot of men in particular want to control their life and they want to plan their life

and they want to know that they checked all the boxes.

I think that's largely what led to much of my depression,

was trying to control too many of the uncontrollable things and whether it's dating or to your career

or just your friendships. When you try to control everything, you don't truly ever experience anything

because you're approaching it from almost like this 10,000 foot view where you're trying to look at

how it plugs into a larger picture and you're just never really present. And I think that's what really

prevented me from connecting with people and it also prevented me from just connecting with

myself through a lot of those years. Hello everybody. Welcome back to the skinny confidential him

and her show. Today we're sitting down with Kyle Creek, also known online as the captain.

Kyle is a writer, creator and self-proclaimed instigator. He's also a new father in the author

of multiple best-selling titles. Today we're sitting down to talk about Kyle's story, his struggle

with depression. Many listeners struggle with depression and this could be an enlightening

episode with tactics and tools on how to battle that depression, growing up in an overly religious

home and how that affected his personality and how these things affect the way that he lives today

in his life. I know that is a very common story for many of our listeners as well. We also get

in the importance of evolving as people and how making wrong decisions can actually help you grow

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