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How to Break Up With Your Phone | The Next Big Idea Daily

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Self-improvement, Arts, Books, Society & Culture, Education

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Let’s face it — your relationship with your phone is toxic. Luckily, Catherine Price is here to help. 📱 Follow The Next Big Idea Daily on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen 📩 Want to transform your day in just 10 minutes? Sign up for our Book of the Day newsletter, and you’ll get daily, bite‑sized insights from the best new nonfiction books — in audio or text — straight from the authors. Sign up today!

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0:00.0

Happy Monday. I'm Michael Kovnet, host of the Next Big Idea Spinoff, The Next Big Idea Daily.

0:06.2

Every weekday, I invite leading nonfiction authors to share the big ideas from their books

0:10.9

about psychology, business, relationships, and just about everything else. It's a mini masterclass

0:17.5

you can listen to in the time it takes to walk your dog. You're about to hear

0:21.5

the episode we published this morning. To get the rest of this week's episodes, follow the

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next big idea daily.

0:46.1

Quick masterclasses from the best new nonfiction in under 15 minutes. Make sure you're following

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the show to get new episodes and sign up for our free

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companion newsletter using the link in the episode notes. So today, let's talk about the most

1:00.2

important relationship in your life. Now, I'm not talking about any of your family members or

1:05.6

your significant other. I'm talking about your smartphone. You probably spend more time with your phone than you do with any of your human companions.

1:14.3

And who can blame you?

1:15.9

Endless entertainment, instant connection, the thrill of a new notification.

1:20.9

But I think it's time to admit that the relationship has gotten toxic.

1:25.6

Your phone interrupts your conversations.

1:27.3

It keeps you up at night and demands your attention every waking moment. has gotten toxic. Your phone interrupts your conversations.

1:31.7

It keeps you up at night and demands your attention every waking moment.

1:33.1

And what do you get in return?

1:40.3

A vague sense of anxiety, wasted hours, and a growing distance from real people and real life.

1:41.7

Real talk?

1:43.9

I think it might be time for a breakup. Journalists and author Catherine Price,

1:46.4

who writes the Substact newsletter, How to Feel Alive, has studied the science behind our digital

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