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The Business of Fashion Podcast

How to Break Into the Modelling Industry – and Last

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

BoF founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed speaks to veteran modelling agent Chris Gay to understand the shifting power dynamics in the modelling industry and how models can build a career that stands the test of time.


Background: 


In the sometimes fickle and murky world of fashion modelling, the most successful models are taking control of their careers by bypassing the gatekeepers and creating direct relationships with customers, building and engaging their own fanbase.


“If you want real longevity in this business, you need to be building your community. It’s community that creates staying power,” says Chris Gay, co-chief executive officer of Elite World Group and president of The Society Management, which is marking its tenth anniversary this year. 


This week on The BoF Podcast, Gay sits down with BoF founder and editor-in-chief Imran Amed to discuss the shifting power dynamics in the modelling industry and why developing a point-of-view, something that a model becomes known for, is the key to long-term success.


Key Insights:


  • The rise of social media has benefitted models who no longer have to rely on runway shows and brand campaigns to stay relevant. Models can now connect with their fans and followers directly on Instagram or TikTok. “Talent is no longer beholden to anybody. They have real power in their hands. So if you're not chosen for this particular fashion show … that doesn't mean momentum stops for you,” says Gay. 
  • Social media platforms also help models create business relationships without the help of fashion’s traditional players. “It was a very small strategic group of gatekeepers in fashion that had an extraordinary amount of influence over all talents. … Now, it's entirely changed,” he says. 
  • The power dynamics are shifting in other ways too. For some companies, working on a social ad with a well-known talent like Kendall Jenner or Liu Wen can have a bigger impact than a traditional ad campaign. “The next 10 years is really going to be about talent being a more effective and a more strategic distribution channel for everyone,” says Gay. 
  • Gay’s advice to talent looking to break into the industry is twofold: build deep knowledge of the fashion industry and cultivate a style that essentially becomes your trademark. “Care about fashion. … It has nothing to do with the price of the items that you buy. But it really has to do with understanding collective style and what your own individual sense of style is,” he explains. 


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0:00.0

Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion. Welcome to the

0:09.0

B.OF podcast. It's Friday, September 22nd. In the sometimes fickle and murky world of fashion modeling,

0:16.7

the most successful models are increasingly taking control of their careers by bypassing fashion gatekeepers

0:23.4

and creating direct relationships with customers themselves.

0:27.4

If you want real longevity in this business, you need to engage the other side of your career as well too,

0:36.7

which is building your community. And that

0:39.1

community creates staying power. This week on the BOF podcast, I sit down with the veteran

0:44.5

modeling agent Chris Gay to discuss the shifting power dynamics in the modeling industry and

0:50.6

understand why building a community and developing a real point of view is the key to long-term success.

0:58.0

Here's Chris Gay on the BOF podcast.

1:02.4

Well, Chris Gay is a delight and a pleasure to welcome you to the BOF podcast.

1:09.1

This conversation has been a long time coming because actually I've

1:13.6

never interviewed you and you've been in our orbit for a number of years now. We've worked with

1:20.7

you with a number of your talents at the society from Adut and Carly, Kendall and others. So And the UN, of course. So it's a pleasure to speak

1:31.5

to the man behind it all. And especially on the occasion of the 10-year anniversary of the society.

1:40.2

But before we talk about today and everything that's happening and changing in the industry,

1:45.9

I'm always curious to hear the backstory. How did you become a modeling agent?

1:51.5

I just fell into it, Imbron. And listen, thank you so much for having me today. I have to tell

1:56.8

you that, like, our office is, it's a group of the most extraordinary young people and every

2:02.1

day they're plugged in to BOF and you they're like you're like their Bible at this particular

2:07.6

point so and speaking to them so you're really speaking to that generation which is pretty awesome

2:12.5

so I appreciate it because of how much we really value yourself and BOF.

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