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My name is Jeff, and today I'm going to be talking with Hugh Oliver and Andy Lloyd Evans.

So Hugh and Annie are outdoor educators based in Scotland, and the couple has raced and bike-packed all over the planet,

and recently completed a winter bike

expedition above the Arctic Circle in Sweden. Thanks for joining us, you and Annie. Hi, no worries.

Yeah, nice to talk to you. So I'm fascinated with your job title. I read somewhere that you

two are outdoor educators. So what exactly is it that you do and how did you get started in that position?

So outdoor education, it's basically outdoor instructing, but rather than just focusing on teaching

somebody like how to go climbing or how to kayak, and we're also teaching them about, I suppose,

the outdoor environment, trying to get them really excited about

well they're being outdoors

and looking after the environment

but also learning about themselves

and so we'll use say an abseil

as a challenge that can be overcome

to try and build a bit of confidence and self-esteem in them

and yeah we got

started after uni. We, or I did like a year's apprenticeship. So I worked in an outdoor

education centre. Okay. And yeah, I got my qualifications through that. And so how it all worked.

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