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How To!: Big Dating Energy

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🗓️ 7 May 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When Allen’s gym crush asked him—point blank—if he liked someone, he panicked. Should he tell her? What should he do if she wasn’t actually flirting with him? On this episode of How To!: Courtney Martin finds out what happened and brings in Jeff Guenther, therapist and author of the new book Big Dating Energy. (You might know him as TherapyJeff from TikTok, Instagram, or YouTube.) Jeff gives Allen the tools to flirt more authentically, stick to his non-negotiables, and lean into his self-confidence.  If you liked this episode check out: How To Ditch the Apps & Actually Find a Date Do you have a problem that needs solving? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. How To’s executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson and Kevin Bendis.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now at slate.com/howtoplus. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

She's like, Alan, you don't even know me. And I was like, yeah, that's kind of the point of a crush, right?

0:06.0

Yeah.

0:10.6

Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin. Do you remember your first crush? I totally do. His name was Michael Mahoney. Shout out Michael Mahoney. Anyway, it was second grade. My older brother and his friends asked people out. Like you would say, do you want to go out with me in this like really formal intense way? So I did that. One day on the playground, I mustered up the courage to say, Michael, do you want to go out with me? And he said, go where?

0:40.2

And it was at that moment that I realized I had no idea what it actually meant to go out with someone.

0:46.7

And I kind of skulked away completely mortified. Though we may have countless crushes in our

0:53.0

lifetime, and if you're anything like me, countless mortifications, there is something about the first one that just sticks.

1:02.0

Oh, my God.

1:04.9

I was in first grade.

1:07.1

She was in all the smart classes, and I was having a lot of trouble with math, just being able to do addition and subtraction and stuff like that.

1:16.7

I just remember, like, even then I knew she was totally out of my league.

1:22.9

That's Allen.

1:24.1

He's in his 30s now, but in some ways he still feels like that shy first grader.

1:29.6

Ever since then, I've just really struggled with my own self-image and anxiety. And like if I do

1:40.2

develop like the feels for for somebody, then I just kind of like growing to the wall

1:47.3

and becoming obscure and just letting it die and moving on.

1:53.8

Do you remember the first time you actually pushed against that feeling and tried to tell

1:59.5

someone that you had a crush on them?

2:11.6

Yes, I broke out in cold sweats and my tongue went dry, horrible stutter, like hands in my pockets, shoulders hunched, like, hey, you want to go out with me sometime. It's okay if you don't. It's fine. I don't know.

2:18.9

Yeah.

2:20.0

Of course, I could not maintain eye contact because we didn't know then that I have

2:25.9

Asperger's, but I didn't find that out until I was 25, actually.

2:31.7

Asperger's syndrome is now usually referred to as autism spectrum disorder,

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