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Hey what's up everybody

welcome to the College Info Geek Podcast.

My name is Thomas Frank and this is a show that helps you become a more effective student. In this episode, I'm having a conversation with my friend Alan Becker who is a professional animator. So if you're curious about this I think you'll enjoy this episode and

I'm basically going to pick his brain on how he learned to become an animator, some of the

tools he uses and the journey that he took to gain his skills, and also what his day-to-day life is now that he does

freelance work for clients and also works on his own projects and runs a YouTube

channel full-time. Now if you don't know who Alan is you might have actually seen his work before because Alan is the creator of a series of animations called Animator versus animation.

The first one went online I think back in 2006 on Newgrounds and then to YouTube after that and since then

that original video has over 9 million views I believe collectively and his

most recent animation animator versus 4, has over 20 million views, and it's absolutely amazing.

It's a stick figure animation where the stick figure is basically fighting against the computer,

and in some of them you see like the computer elements being

thrown all over the place and in the latest one he's actually got it jumping over to

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