I'm Peter Martin, and I'm Adam Manus. Welcome to the You'll Hear It podcast.

Today, we're going to talk about how you can become a better composer.

And if this works out well, we're going to talk about how we can become better composers as well.

We're always growing, always learning.

Right, Adam?

That's right, man.

I'm going to be out of this jazz thing.

I'm going to be a professional composer.

I'll see you all later. And, well, you bring up a good point because I think all jazz musicians kind of think about themselves and should think about themselves as composers because we do a lot of improvisation. But I think it's an interesting thing to think about. A lot of you guys are interested in composing and Adam. I know you've done a lot of great composing and arranging and I've done a little bit,

but it's fun as jazz musicians to think about how the improv that we always do informs our composition and maybe vice versa.

Yeah, I think jazz musicians have a huge advantage in composing because we compose all the time.

We totally understand how to do it and it's right.

It should be right at our fingertips as players.

Absolutely.

Okay, so the first thing I think about always with this is from the great Ray Brown, who's a bassist, of course, who needs no introduction,

but in case we got any ignorant folks out there go go Google

him but Ray Brown you know just just one of the greatest jazz basis ever but I

had a little bit of a chance to play with him and be around him and I'm so

grateful that I had that but I remember him talking about you know how you

become a better composer and his thing was compose every day it wasn't like you know how you become a better composer and his thing was compose every day it wasn't like

you know study duke allenton scores which maybe we'll talk about that but it was just composed

every day and it really got me thinking that you know you have to do it in order to develop

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