Marene van der Laugh had insomnia for years, but he is now an expert in getting a good

night's rest. And he has a brilliant book out about conquering sleep struggles called How to Sleep

Like a Caveman, Ancient Wisdom for a Better night's rest. I used to have insomnia myself

and what I love about this book is that for problem sleepers, it is a relaxing and reassuring

read, which is definitely not the case for some of the biggest books in this sleep genre over

recent years. So in this episode, you're going to learn why the common advice around

sleep can actually make insomnia worse, how to reframe wakefulness during the night,

the powerful technique of sleep restriction therapy and how it works, the surprising origins

of the eight hours of sleep myth, and tips for regulating your sleep, wake cycle with

light and exercise. This episode will definitely help you feel more rested and relaxed. So sit

back and enjoy. Marine, an absolute pleasure to see you. Welcome to the show. How are you? Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm

fine. Thanks. Yeah. I slept well last night. It's a good opening line. Well, listen, I've got your book

here, How to Sleep Like a Caveman. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I have to say, it is great to read

a sleep book that doesn't scare the life out of people who are

problem sleepers because they are few and far between. Yeah, I know. And I was suffering from

insomnia in my 20s when I was like 28, 28 going on 31, I was suffering from chronic insomnia.

And the only thing that I found on the internet and the only books I read were really terrifying and actually did not do much good for my own sleep.

So I thought it's time to make a book that's scientifically well written, but also that insurance gives more rest to people with insomnia.

Yeah.

Comfort and reassurance, absolutely.

I'm not trying to lure you into saying anything about any other books, but I'm going

to because the Matthew Walker's sleep, the Matthew Walker

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