And the Hey everyone. It's Andrew Claving with this week's interview with Professor Eric

Kaufman. Eric has written a book called The Third Awokening, a 12-point plan for rolling back progressive extremism.

You know, there are a lot of books about how we got here into this kind of amazing

place where not only are people saying things that are obviously untrue,

they're condemning and canceling others for pointing out that they're untrue

and there have been books by Carl Truman, who I love,

Chris Rufo did one, Michael Knowles did his book, Katie Gorka, they've sort of talked about where we've come from and the reason I wanted to talk to Professor Kaufman is because he has a totally different take than they do and he's a guy who should know because he has a totally different take than they do and he's a guy who should

know because he's been canceled himself kind of brutally and I want to hear

about that as well professor thank you for coming on it's nice to meet you

Andrew thanks for having me.

As I was saying, as long overdue, I think, for us to be.

Absolutely, absolutely.

It is great to see you, and I have to,

I wish you would just tell people before we start talking about the third

awakening tell it tell us a little bit about your experience you're teaching in

Britain right yeah I'm teaching in Britain well if I can talk about my experience

which is kind of probably now you know I was at the

Stanford Academic Freedom Conference they asked who here has been canceled and about 90% of people raised their hand in the

room of several hundred.

So yeah, I was sort of, you know,

was that first wave.

Now, I can't say I was canceled out of a job,

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