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Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

How to Beat Burnout: Use Play to Feel Like Yourself Again | Piera Gelardi | Happiness | E519

Love, Happiness and Success with Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

YAP Media Network | Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby

Relationships, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.7890 Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Burnout and stress don’t just drain energy, they drain connection. If you’re in burnout, it can spike stress & anxiety and create real conflict & repair work at home. And here’s the part most people miss: sometimes burnout isn’t solved by “pushing harder” or even taking a break. Sometimes it’s about play. Not childish, silly, or irresponsible play. But a playful mindset—curiosity, experimentation, levity—that changes how you experience your real life, in real time. In this conversation, I’m joined by Piera Gelardi to talk about burnout recovery through a lens most people never consider. Piera is a creative entrepreneur, artist, and the co-founder of Refinery29 and 29Rooms, and her work is all about helping people reconnect with joy, creativity, and aliveness. Together, we explore what happens when life gets so serious, so scheduled, and so responsibility-heavy that you lose touch with the parts of yourself that feel light, open, and fully alive. We talk about “play deprivation,” the difference between having fun and living playfully, and why recovery from burnout often has less to do with escaping your life and more to do with changing your relationship to it. You’ll hear why humor as a coping mechanism can be surprisingly healing, how playful curiosity can shift conflict, and why the quiet boredom in relationship can sometimes be a sign that something important has gone missing. This is a warm, honest conversation about stress, connection, resilience, and what helps people feel like themselves again. We also get practical. Piera shares simple ways to bring more play into ordinary life, from finding the funny in hard moments to remixing daily routines, noticing beauty, and experimenting with small changes that make life feel less heavy. As you listen, I’d love for you to consider: What has gotten so serious lately? Where have you made joy conditional? And what might change if play was not something you earned after everything else was done, but part of how you cared for yourself all along? Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Why Play Matters for Adults 09:08 What Play Deprivation Really Looks Like 21:21 The Different Ways Adults Experience Play 30:11 How Humor Can Help You Cope 39:13 Wonder Wandering and Everyday Joy 41:16 Playfulness in Relationships 44:46 Why Play Is Fuel, Not Frivolous If you’re noticing that stress has taken over your mood, your relationships, or your ability to enjoy your own life, this might be a good time to get support. You can book a free consultation with me or a member of my team, and we’ll talk about what’s been feeling hard, what you want to change, and what kind of support would actually help. We’ll help you find the right counselor or coach so you can feel more grounded, more connected, and more like yourself again. xoxo, Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby Growing Self Upwork — and it’s a sponsorship I said yes to because I actually use it. When you need specialized talent fast, Upwork gives you access to vetted professionals across 125+ categories, from marketing to web development to operations support. No long recruiting cycles. No guesswork. Just the right person, when you need them. Check it out at upwork.com — posting a job is free. Shopify — The all-in-one platform for building and growing your online business. Visit shopify.com/lhs to explore their tools and access exclusive listener discounts.OSEA - Amazing, clean, science-backed skincare made with the power of the sea. Use code LHS at oseamalibu.com for 10% off your first order

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So often we can choose to be annoyed or we can be abused.

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Yeah.

0:15.0

Come to your home a day and go to the head

0:19.0

and love the talk in a free zone of all the behoombed. When was the last time you've done. It just changed the whole dynamic that often comes up.

0:21.3

When was the last time you played and had fun?

0:29.8

It just changed the whole dynamic and it helps to diffuse that tension that often comes up in our day-to-day relationships.

0:47.7

Now baby, baby, I hate the our day-to-day relationships. If you just heard that and you're like, what is she talking about right now, That's okay. But new idea.

0:55.4

Play is very, very important for adults too.

0:59.3

And if you don't have any playful energy in your life, it can be kind of a warning sign and something to listen to because over time, if you have your nose to the grindstone and

1:13.1

it's always what you shouldn't be doing and never what you want to be doing or things that

1:18.2

feel genuinely joyful and fun for you, that can lead to a bunch of negative consequences.

1:26.6

Burnout, depression, exhaustion, or even just, I think, the worst possible

1:32.2

outcome getting to the end of your life and thinking, what was that all for?

1:38.0

You can be in traffic and you can be annoyed about it and you can be like staring at the time

1:42.1

and honking your horn and gripping the steering wheel really tight. Or you can accept like staring at the time and honking your horn and gripping the steering

1:44.2

wheel really tight. Or you can accept that that's the situation and you can turn on the radio

1:49.5

and sing along.

1:55.3

We're going to fix that today. Help is here. We are speaking with my very special guest, Piera Gelardi.

2:04.8

And she has so much to share.

2:07.0

Thank you for having me.

2:08.4

Yay.

2:09.3

So we'll be diving into this in just a second.

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