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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

How to be wrong less often

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Vox's Dylan Matthews talks with Julia Galef, host of the podcast Rationally Speaking, and author of The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don't. They discuss how we can overcome the ways our own minds deceive us and change the way we think to make more rational decisions. Host: Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), Senior Correspondent, Vox   Guest: Julia Galef (@juliagalef), Author; host of Rationally Speaking podcast References:  The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don't by Julia Galef (Apr. 2021)   Enjoyed this episode? Rate Vox Conversations ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.   Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Vox Conversations by subscribing in your favorite podcast app. Support Vox Conversations by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts This episode was made by:  Producer: Erikk Geannikis Editor: Amy Drozdowska Engineer: Paul Mounsey VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hey there, this is Dylan Matthews and I write for Vox about things like

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anti-poverty efforts, animal welfare, and the best ways to do philanthropy.

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And this week I'm your host for Vox Conversations.

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So a few months ago as 2020 was ending, I decided to look back at the work I'd done and

0:58.8

count up all the articles I'd written.

1:01.4

It turned out I wrote 94 articles that year, each of them making dozens of claims and

1:05.6

arguments.

1:07.2

And I thought to myself, some of those claims and arguments have to be wrong.

1:11.7

I'm a human being.

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There's no way I'm batting a thousand.

1:15.4

But how can I know which ones I got wrong and how do I identify them and do better in

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the future without feeling like I'm a failure?

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I guess this week is Julia Galef who's a brilliant writer and friend of mine whose new book

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is all about this problem.

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It's called the Scout mindset, why some people see things clearly and others don't.

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And it's really a book about what kind of person we should try to be.

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A type of person who's more open to new evidence and ways of thinking.

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A type of person who doesn't dilute herself.

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