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The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

How To Be Successful in a World That Wasn’t Built for You (ft. Astronaut Cady Coleman)

The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck Podcast

Mark Manson

Self-improvement, Education

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

How do you find your way in a world where even when you do everything right, the odds keep getting stacked against you? My guest today, Cady Coleman, shares how she navigated the male-dominated fields of science, the Air Force, and NASA, breaking down barriers with tenacity and grace.


From her time on the International Space Station to the release of her first book, Sharing Space, Cady’s story is a powerful reminder of the importance of mission, adaptability, and the unwavering belief in one’s potential, even when the world around you says otherwise.


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Cady’s Book, Sharing Space: https://www.amazon.com/Sharing-Space-Astronauts-Mission-Wonder/dp/0593494016


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Transcript

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0:00.0

About five years ago, I was backstage at a conference I was speaking at when I casually got into a conversation with one of the other speakers.

0:07.3

It turned out she was an astronaut. She had flown multiple missions to space and had spent six months on the International Space Station.

0:14.8

Upon finding this out I immediately said I apologize in advance for the barrage of questions

0:20.3

about space that I'm going to ask you.

0:22.1

Feel free to change the subject at any time.

0:24.5

And for the next two hours, I bombarded her

0:27.2

with questions about space.

0:28.8

Space missions, space flight, living in space,

0:31.3

zero gravity.

0:32.1

I mean, like, how do you eat, how do you poop, how do you do anything?

0:36.3

She never tired, she never changed the subject, and we've been friends ever since.

0:40.4

Katie Coleman is a scientist, an astronaut, and an Air Force veteran.

0:44.0

She built her incredible career in the 80s and 90s, an era where there were few to know women in the rooms that Katie was in,

0:50.0

and she managed to excel through all of them.

0:52.0

If I had to describe Katie in a word, and she managed to excel through all of them.

0:52.6

If I had to describe Katie in a word, I would say,

0:55.8

tenacity.

0:56.8

She is a single-mindedness about her that is very rare,

0:59.8

a way of pressing ahead through adversity

1:01.9

without accumulating the resentment or pity parades that most of us do.

1:05.7

Or as she puts it, cheerfully showing up even when you weren't invited.

1:09.7

A few weeks ago, she released her first book, it's called Sharing Space, and I had her on the show to talk

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