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Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

How To Be Legendary

Rick Wilson's The Enemies List

Lincoln Square

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.93.9K Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of The Enemies List, Rick is joined by writer, producer and former US attorney Jonathan Shapiro. Together they discuss Jonathan's new book How to Be Abe Lincoln: Seven Steps to Leading a Legendary Life. They detail the various aspects of Abraham Lincoln's life and philosophy that made him a great leader. They emphasize the importance of these simple steps as a template for healing in our divisive political landscape. Jonathan's new book, How to Be Abe Lincoln, is available now. Timestamps: [00:01:27] Inspiration for the book [00:07:06] "I have to speak the truth" [00:08:52] Holding the union together [00:13:24] Navigation [00:17:38] Lincoln's stoicism [00:21:59] Applying the lessons Follow Resolute Square: Instagram Twitter TikTok Find out more at Resolute Square Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:01.0

Resolute Square

0:08.0

There was also maintain what was called an enemy's list, which is rather expensive and continually being updated

0:16.0

In the crash, what remained like it instead?

0:22.0

Where I could stand in the middle of the family and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay?

0:28.0

The women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having a margin

0:36.0

On January 6th of 2021, you had tens of thousands of people peacefully protesting

0:42.0

So, not right-wing spirit theory, not killing on! It's real!

0:47.0

I'm Rick Wilson, and this is the enemy's list

0:52.0

Hi folks, I'm Rick Wilson, and welcome to the enemies list. My guest today is Jonathan Shapiro

0:58.0

Jonathan is an attorney, a former prosecutor, a gifted writer, everything from novels to nonfiction, to more television than you can shake a stick at

1:09.0

He is also now written an incredibly insightful book called How to Be Abe Lincoln

1:16.0

Seven steps to leading a legendary life

1:19.0

And as you know, we're some Abe Lincoln fans here on the show, and I read this with extraordinarily high enthusiasm

1:27.0

Because Jonathan, you drew some fascinating lessons for how Lincoln worked and lived and grew and governed and related to people

1:35.0

That you are correct in saying would be valuable for the lives of everyday folks

1:40.0

Tell us about how the book came to be

1:42.0

and inspired you to jump in to write this book at this moment

1:46.0

First of all, thank you for having me. I'm a huge fan of your work

1:51.0

Though we would have been on the other side of things when I was working in politics

1:56.0

But we've reached that point where all the centers are on one side and all the saints are on the other

2:01.0

So it's a pleasure to be on your side

2:03.0

I guess I got tired of having people I love, friends and family, throw up their hands and say they were done with politics

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