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Masters of Scale

How to be 'fearless' in the AI age, with Fei-Fei Li and Reid Hoffman

Masters of Scale

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Entrepreneurship, Business, Management, Reid Hoffman, Mindset, Diversity & Inclusion, Jeff Berman, Bob Safian, Startups

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

The brilliant computer scientist Fei-Fei Li is often called the Godmother of AI. She talks with host Reid Hoffman about why scientists and entrepreneurs need to be fearless in the face of an uncertain future.

Li was a founding director of the Human-Centered AI Institute at Stanford and is now an innovator in the area of spatial intelligence as co-founder and CEO of World Labs. 

This conversation was recorded live at the Presidio Theatre as part of the 2025 Masters of Scale Summit.

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0:00.0

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0:34.9

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0:45.6

AI is supposed to make work easier to manage, but too often it just adds more to manage on top of the

0:51.7

thousands of apps the IT department already juggles.

0:55.2

Any business can add AI, but the real breakthrough is being able to scale and manage it.

1:01.0

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1:04.7

Let's create smarter business, IBM.

1:08.8

Hey folks, this week on the show, we're sharing Reed Hoffman's conversation with Dr.

1:13.5

Faye-Fei Lee from our 2025 Masters of Scale Summit.

1:19.9

Faye-Fei is a brilliant computer scientist and author who has been at the forefront of

1:24.6

AI development for decades.

1:27.3

She was a founding director of Stanford's

1:30.3

Human-Centered AI Institute and is now the co-founder and CEO of World Labs. She joined

1:38.7

Reid on stage for candid reflections on where we are and where we're headed as AI evolves.

1:45.3

I think you'll enjoy this.

1:56.4

I've lost count of the number of times we've done this, and it's always awesome and an honor.

2:00.3

So thank you for being here. Thank you. I've lost count, too. of times we've done this, and it's always awesome and an honor. So thank you for being here.

2:01.3

Thank you.

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