Hello and welcome to the upgrade, LifeHackers podcasts where we help you improve your life one week at a time.

I'm Melissa Kirsch, editor-in-chief of LifeHacker.

And I'm Alice Bradley, LifeHacker's deputy editor. So, Alice, I just completed an interview and you

were not there. Where were you? It was so cruel that you did not wait for me. I was stuck on the

train, on the F- F train, to be precise.

The New York City subway train?

The New York City subway train that long has been problematic, and I was stuck on it for a good half an hour, I would say, to 45 minutes.

It was very exciting.

Basically, we stopped between stations where there was no cell phone reception of any

kind, so I couldn't actually inform anybody where I was. And no one told us why we were stopped.

And then they said, there's signal problems, and we slowly began to inch forward, and people began to

get angrier and angrier. then they said we're going to

let the first two cars out at the platform so people began to apparently run willy-nilly toward the first

two cars so people started coming through our car except some doors between cars will open up and some will not.

And our door was one of them that does not.

So people were running into our car and then getting stuck there.

So people kept coming in.

And I had a momentary feeling of intense panic that we weren't going to survive.

People were just going to keep coming in until we were all crushed.

But in fact, they stopped eventually. But everybody was very disgruntled.

And it was hot and sweaty. And long story short, we made it out. It's okay. It's all okay.

So while you were out, we chatted with Sally Cohn, who is one of the leading progressive voices in America today.

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