Welcome to this is Jen episode 59 do not forget that we always have bonus episodes every

single week on patreon where I go into my behind the scenes kind of secrets going to

more personal stuff patreon.com slash this is Jen is where you find that and I'm actually

I've been talking with my team about even more fun stuff that we can do on patreon.

I don't think I'm even going to change the price or anything I'm just going to add

stuff for the same price because I'm just I am having so much fun with that community

there and it has just been such a great fun thing really really enjoying that patreon.com

slash this is Jen Shady Ray with us as always and she's hanging in there you know we

get stuff done she's not feeling well today and yet she's she's making it happen she's

making it worth yeah that's right well and by the way I think this is an interesting tip

to start with you are a creative Shady you are in the music world and then of course you

do great work here with me I am a creative and I have found that there is almost no correlation

to how I feel physically and the quality of work that I am able to produce would you say

the same thing I do I relate to that and and and I have a ton of experience on this

guys and this is I think this is especially important because for you know obviously I

have a lot of mom followers and a lot of them are they're just ground to the bone every

single day they're exhausted they're if they're pregnant maybe they're nauseated they're

not getting enough sleep and I think they feel like they won't be able to do anything

creatively how could I how could I possibly do anything creatively because I feel terrible

all the time and so they don't even try I am here to tell you give it a shot just just try

because my my first book something other than God I started it when I had just had my third

baby in three years and I had three more babies in the four years that it took to finish it so

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