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Schauer Thoughts

How To Be Creative: Divergent Thinking (Pt. 2)!

Schauer Thoughts

Sarah Schauer & Studio71

Comedy, Education

4.8669 Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2025

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Prepare to get meta, I’m going to walk you through my creative, divergent thinking process while explaining the neuroscience of creativity and divergent thinking! We do need our brains and bodies to be in sync for this to be meaningful, illuminating, give you (and I) an “aha!” moment. Please note, divergent thinking means you think in a way that is not typical or standard, so I apologize if I’m hard to follow, however it is necessary to illustrate the point I’m making. I want you to know that you don’t have to understand every single detail, however you should focus on the actual “route” my mind is taking - the “figure 8.” Thank you so much to The Allen Institute for inviting me to Neuroscience 2025 in San Diego, I am beyond grateful and appreciative for the experience. I encourage everyone to check out their website, as well as their mission, because science (and creativity) truly are for everyone. The Allen Institute: https://alleninstitute.org/  New Book Club Information: https://www.patreon.com/posts/new-book-for-143088045  Resources: This Is What It Sounds Like - Susan Rogers and Ogi Ogas  Your Brain on Art: How the Arts Transform Us - Susan Magsamen & Ivy Ross Horror in Architecture: The Reanimated Edition - Joshua Comaroff + One Ker-Shing Future Tense: Why Anxiety Is Good for You (Even Though It Feels Bad) - Tracy Dennis-Tiwary, PhD This is the book I recommended on arousal state splitting off into excitement or anxiety. A neurocomputational model of creative process https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0149763422001452 Functional Fixedness: When We Stick to What We Know https://nesslabs.com/functional-fixedness This is not the Time Magazine article but it also covers functional fixedness and how it impacts creativity Sensorimotor experience and verb-category mapping in human sensory, motor and parietal neurons https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010945217301491 Mental time travel, language, and evolution https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0028393219302441 Isometric Handgrip Exercise Speeds Working Memory Responses in Younger and Older Adults https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10238670/ This article does include hand exercises for younger adults, most however are focused on improving working memory for older populations Analogy: Definition, Examples, and Usage https://www.grammarly.com/blog/literary-devices/analogy/ Learning from the Double Diamond: How Divergent and Convergent Thinking Can Improve Collaboration and Problem-Solving in Museums https://www.aam-us.org/2024/04/05/learning-from-the-double-diamond-how-divergent-and-convergent-thinking-can-improve-collaboration-and-problem-solving-in-museums/ On the emergence of interdisciplinary scientific fields: (how) does it relate to science convergence? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048733324000751 A Global Map of Science Based on the ISI Subject Categories https://www.leydesdorff.net/map06/texts/index.htm The Brain Science of Elusive ‘Aha! Moments’ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-elusive-brain-science-of-aha-moments/ Recommended Books: The Geometry of Grief - Michael Frame The Tao of Physics - Fritjof Capra  The Gentrification of the Mind - Sarah Schulman  On the Art and Craft of Doing Science - Kenneth Catania  The Meaning of Proofs: Mathematics as Storytelling - Gabriele Lolli The Botany of Desire - Michael Pollan  The Story Grid: What Good Editors Know - Shawn Coyne  When Narcissism Comes to Church - Chuck DeGroat Humour - Terry Eagleton The Knowledge Illusion: Why We Never Think Alone - Philip Fernbach & Steven A. Sloman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi guys. Welcome back to shower thoughts Thoughts, a podcast for left and right brainers, middle brainers, anyone with the corpus callosum brainstem, any sort of lobes. I am Sarah Schauer,

0:50.5

I'm your host, and today we're going to be talking about how to be creative part two.

0:55.8

This is going to be fun. On this episode, we're going to cover divergent thinking, which is a

1:00.4

necessary component to creativity. We are going to be approaching from the neuroscience, you know,

1:07.3

the grid, right, what has been outlined in the brain is important for creativity,

1:11.6

and I will be applying it. If you are watching on YouTube, you can see a whole bunch of books in

1:16.6

front of me because what is included in this episode is the importance of lateral learning

1:22.3

and lateral thinking. There's divergent thinking, convergent thinking, lateral thinking,

1:29.1

and we're going to put it all together and get interdisciplinary. But before we get into that, Sarah, how was your week? It was

1:34.3

incredible. So I told y'all last week that I got invited to the Society for Neuroscience

1:42.9

26, which was in San Diego, I went down there and it was so

1:47.3

fun. I was invited by the Allen Institute. Thank you so much to the Allen Institute. There's such

1:51.9

an incredible institute. Science is for everyone. Um, it was something interesting though that did

1:57.1

happen. And, um, the Allen Institute invited me to an event that happened on Sunday

2:03.3

night. And so I had my first book club meeting Sunday morning with everyone. We're discussing

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