How to Be Anti-Tribal (Robert Wright & Mónica Guzmán)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

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News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7 • 618 Ratings

🗓️ 6 December 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

0:00 Mónica’s book I Never Thought of It That Way, about how to have “bridge-building” conversations 1:41 Why Mónica’s immigrant parents support(ed) Trump 7:02 Barriers to getting bridge-building buy-in 15:37 Understanding vs. the need to be understood 21:58 Bridge-building 101 27:39 Is understanding a slippery slope to excusing? 33:35 The underrated bridge-building power of curiosity 43:44 Does the media fuel or just reflect our divisions? 43:40 The limits of bridge-building

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Mónica Guzmán (Braver Angels). Recorded December 01, 2022.

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0:00.0	You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.
0:08.6	Hi, Monica.
0:09.9	Hey, Bob.
0:10.5	How's it going?
0:11.7	I can't complain.
0:13.0	How are you?
0:13.7	I'm good.
0:14.7	I'm good.
0:16.2	Sorry that we've gotten you up early.
0:19.2	Your time, you're on the Pacific Coast.
0:22.2	Yeah, okay.
0:23.3	Well, get that out of the way because now we have to actually talk.
0:27.5	Yeah, all good.
0:28.7	So let me introduce this.
0:30.3	I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the Non-Zero Newsletter.
0:33.7	This is a non-zero podcast.
0:35.1	You're Monica Guzman, a journalist.
0:39.6	For a time, you're a columnist at the Seattle Times. You are author, and this is what will mainly be talking
0:46.0	about, author of the book, I never thought of it that way, how to have fearlessly curious
0:49.6	conversations in dangerously divided times. And that book is closely related to your work with a group called Braver Angels,
1:01.8	which I guess arose in the aftermath of the election of 2016.
1:08.2	It's aimed, it was called uh better angels after the famous
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