What does it mean to be an entrepreneur? Does it mean you quit your job and start a

business? Sometimes, but I know entrepreneurs who work in big companies too. The reality

is that entrepreneurial spirit is more common than we realize. In fact, the number of young

employees that also have a side hustle, I would argue, they're entrepreneurs. So if you

want to be really good at your hustle, if you want to be really good at being an entrepreneur,

you really need to listen to Jeff Rosenthal. He's one of the founders of Summit Series,

which is a community of and for remarkable entrepreneurs. And we talked about the enthusiasm it

takes to do something completely unreasonable. This is a bit of optimism.

Jeff, thanks so much for joining me on the podcast. You're one of my favorite people,

because you are charming and funny and engaging. And the consistency with which you bring magic

is amazing. Wow, that is incredibly flattering. Thank you so much, Simon. Let's start

right at the beginning. For those who don't know you, you are the co-founder of something

called Summit Series. And for those who don't know Summit Series, how do you define it?

Well, Summit Series in Summit is an organization that I started with. My co-founders actually

now 15 years ago. So we started it when we were 24 years old. The initial intention was simply

to meet and connect with other entrepreneurs and makers and creators. We were young entrepreneurs.

We didn't have a peer group. And we thought, man, what better way to create it than invite

people to an event. Our first event was 19 people in parks to the Utah. Second event was 60 in

Mexico. And third was at the Obama White House a month after they took office. So we had very

exponential success. And we were also the youngest dumbest people in the room, which made us real

servant leaders. It was pretty easy to grow and build a community with incredible advice and

mentorship that we got from the very beginning. And so today, Summit spans our flagship events

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