How to Be an Effective Idealist (Rutger Bregman)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Rutger Bregman is the New York Times–bestselling author of Moral Ambition. Today, he shares his model for living a more meaningful life. It’s not about being an idealist, or following your “passions.” It is, in many ways, about effectively solving the problems in our lives using the talents we already have. For Rutger Bregman’s work (including that amazing viral Davos clip, in case you missed it), head over to my Substack. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. Today I'm talking to Rutger Bregman, the New York Times best-selling author of Moral Ambition.
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0:50.1	Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread.
0:53.6	On this show, we pull apart the web in which we all live to understand who we are and why we're here.
0:59.9	My hope is that these conversations spark moments of resonance and plant tiny seeds of awareness
1:05.0	so that we might all collectively learn and grow.
1:10.3	Here is today's guest, Rutger Bregregman on building his school for moral ambition.
1:15.6	Because we don't need to find heroes.
1:17.6	We need to make heroes.
1:19.6	We need to ask people to become a hero.
1:21.6	It's as simple as that.
1:23.6	You've likely seen Rutger Bregman on a late night talk show or on Instagram or watched his amazing viral clip from Davos, which we talk about today, in which I'll share in the show notes in case you missed it.
1:36.1	Rutger is a Dutch historian and best-selling author of several books, including his latest moral ambition.
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