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You're listening to Ted Talks Daily, I'm Elise Hugh.

In today's episode, Justin J. Pearson, the Tennessee Lawmaker, who's becoming a household

name, sits down for a powerful conversation with UK Parliament member David Lamy.

The two describe this moment in climate leadership and environmental justice and how to connect

the dots between various global communities who are fighting for the planet after a short

break.

David, it is so wonderful and fantastic to be here with you.

I admire your leadership in the UK and across the globe for the work that you do.

When you think about leadership in this movement for climate justice, how would you characterize

it at this time?

So look, I look at this through the lens of foreign policy.

We are in a tough geopolitical moment.

We've got the United States, obviously as the world's superpower, but China rivaling

now the United States.

We've got the emergence of these middle states like UAE, where the next COP will be, India

and others.

And at this moment, there is a degree of short-termism, particularly as populism enters politics

in Northern Europe, in the United States and other places.

There is, I think, also a degree of underestimating our populations and social media and other

is driving, is driving that.

So I guess there is a tendency to focus too much on small things and not the big things

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