How to Be A Good Christian Case Maker in Our Noisy Culture
The Cold-Case Christianity Podcast
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🗓️ 21 January 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
J. Warner Wallace is interviewed by Pastor David Fleming of Champion Forest Baptist Church and talks about the importance of becoming a good Christian Case Maker and a specific strategy for selecting those with whom we share what we believe. This excerpt is from a longer interview with apologist Mark Lanier.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Cold Case Christianity broadcast, the only Christian case making program hosted by a Cold Case Homicide Detective. |
| 0:07.6 | Jay Warner Wallace has been investigating cold case murders in Los Angeles County for over a decade. |
| 0:12.7 | His work has been featured on Fox News, Court TV, and Dateline. |
| 0:17.0 | For more information about Jim's work and the Case for Christianity, please visit coldcase |
| 0:21.7 | Christianity.com. |
| 0:23.4 | Now, here's your host, Jay Warner Wallace. |
| 0:28.3 | Thanks for joining us at Cold Case Christianity. |
| 0:30.5 | I'm Jay Warner Wallace. |
| 0:31.8 | This week, I'm going to play an interview that we recorded at Champion Forest Baptist Church, |
| 0:36.6 | where David Fleming is the pastor. We did it earlier this year and had a great time. We covered some important issues about the nature of a Christian case making, why it's important for us to make a case for what we believe, and even about the nature of evangelism, about selecting people that we're going to be sharing the gospel with. How do we do that? How do we know |
| 0:54.5 | what's appropriate? Those kinds of issues. So I hope you'll enjoy it. It's been edited quite a bit |
| 0:58.7 | so it fits in this time frame. I'd like you to chase down David Fleming at Champion |
| 1:03.7 | Forest Baptist Church online. And also Google Mark Lanier, who's sitting on the stage with me. He wrote |
| 1:09.6 | a book called Christianity on trial. |
| 1:11.5 | I recommend that you get that book. |
| 1:13.3 | It's a great book. |
| 1:14.4 | Mark is one of the premier trial attorneys in America. |
| 1:17.4 | So here we go with an interview we did a couple of weeks ago at Champion Forest Baptist Church. |
| 1:23.1 | Would you help me welcome Jim Wallace, cold case detective? |
| 1:32.3 | Welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome. We are really, really glad that he's here with us today, and I think you're going to enjoy some of the things we talk about. |
| 1:36.4 | He is an active investigator. He still has at least one case. I can't tell you what it is. I don't really know, |
| 1:42.3 | but he still does the work. But in addition to that has become a Christian apologist. He's an adjunct professor at Biola University. And he has written this book, among others, called Cold Case Christianity. And I want you to hear some of what he says today. But now I know my weaknesses. I want you to believe that. I do. I know you know them, but I want you to |
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