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Future Perfect

How to be a better carnivore

Future Perfect

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy, Tech News, News

4.5622 Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2018

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Most fish die by slowly suffocating to death on the deck of a boat, struggling for air. That’s horrendously cruel, but it also makes for acidic, rubbery, smelly fish. There’s another way: ikejime, a Japanese method of fish slaughter where the fish is stabbed in the skull and dies instantly with a minimum of pain. That’s good for the animals — and, our guest Andrew Tsui argues, it makes for much tastier food. ––– Further reading: Cat Ferguson’s feature in Topic on Andrew Tsui and ikejime Ferris Jabr reviews the evidence that fish feel pain in Hakai Magazine Ikejime demonstrated by a chef at Go, a Japanese sushi restaurant in Beverly Hills More of Vox’s effective altruism coverage ––– Discover more podcasts from Vox here.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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So to the best of my ability, I'm just going to try to recreate what might happen on a boat.

0:32.2

I'm standing on Andrew Troy's front porch in Heightsville, Maryland.

0:36.0

He's a lawyer by day, but in his spare time, he's an activist on a mission, a mission to

0:41.0

teach people how to kill fish properly.

0:44.0

But right now, he's showing us the wrong way to kill a fish, which is also the way that

0:48.6

a lot of fish are currently killed.

0:51.0

So, fair warning, this episode is not for the squeamish.

0:54.0

Okay, so what you're looking at here... killed. So fair warning, this episode is not for the squeamish.

1:01.5

Okay, so what you're looking at here is what a good portion of commercial fishers look at on a regular basis. And it's a broken cooler with ice still in the bag.

1:08.4

The bag says party ice on the side.

1:10.3

So the typical method is to take this big party bag, throw it into a cooler, and effectively

1:16.6

create just a cool environment.

1:18.6

Once the ice is in the cooler, Andrew turns my attention to a tank that's full of yellowish water.

1:23.6

It has about seven or eight white perch in it.

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