How to avoid World War 3 + why won’t Elon Musk Leave the UK alone? W/ Jamie Bartlett & Stephen Bush
Pod Save the UK
Pod Save the UK
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 21 November 2024
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
Russia’s war with Ukraine is escalating dramatically - as we record reports have begun to emerge about Ukraine firing British long-range “Storm Shadow” missiles into Russia. Nish and Coco are joined on the couch by Stephen Bush, associate editor at the Financial Times, to discuss the chance of...World War Three?
Meanwhile - closer to home - we find out why farmers are descending on Westminster. How big a blow is the Government’s budget for farmers and will Labour face a wipe out of rural supporters?
And as Elon Musk is summoned to testify about X’s role in the UK summer riots, we’ll be speaking to Jamie Bartlett misinformation expert and host of hit podcasts “The Missing Cryptoqueen” and “The Gatekeepers” about Musk’s influence in politics and if we should all be quitting X.
Guests:
Stephen Bush
Jamie Bartlett
Useful Links:
Jamie Bartlett’s Substack - How to Survive the Internet
https://substack.com/@jamiejbartlett
Jamie Bartlett's BBC Radio 4 podcast on the rise of social media's power - The Gatekeepers
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001w207
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Sky News
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Pod Save the UK. I'm Coco Khan. And I'm Nish Kumar. Are you feeling a bit on edge, Coco? |
| 0:07.9 | Why? Because of all the nuclear war chat in the air? Yeah, just the little soups on of nuclear |
| 0:12.1 | war chat in the air. It does feel like a good reason to be on edge, doesn't it? Yeah, I mean, I'm not |
| 0:16.9 | not Googling Bunkers. You know, it's so funny you mention bunkers because I did have a thought the other day. |
| 0:22.4 | Which of my friends would be most likely to have a bunker? |
| 0:25.6 | And should I become closer to them? |
| 0:28.3 | It's weird, and you don't often rank your friends by bunkers? |
| 0:30.5 | But, you know, these are the times we live in. |
| 0:32.6 | Fascinated to know where I came out on that. |
| 0:35.1 | In any case, we're going to try and separate Putin's rhetoric from reality |
| 0:38.0 | and work out what the UK's next steps will be with Stephen Bush from the Financial Times. |
| 0:42.4 | Yes, and meanwhile, closer to home, thousands of farmers have turned out to protest changes |
| 0:46.8 | to inheritance tax. |
| 0:48.4 | The question is, have the government picked the wrong fight? |
| 0:50.9 | And later, we examine Elon Musk's influence on British politics with misinformation expert Jamie Bartlett. |
| 1:01.0 | This week, the G20 was held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, amidst a backdrop of escalation in the war in Ukraine. |
| 1:12.5 | As we record, 1,001 days into the war, US President Joe Biden has authorized Ukrainian |
| 1:18.6 | use of American-made long-range missiles for launch into Russia. |
| 1:22.6 | It's been reported that the UK is likely to follow suit, allowing use of our own long-range storm shadow missiles. |
| 1:29.5 | Overnight, the Biden administration went even further, approving the supply of anti-personnel |
| 1:33.9 | landmines to the Ukrainians with the aim of halting Russian troop advances. The Kremlin described |
| 1:38.3 | the authorisation of long-range strikes as throwing oil on a fire. And on Tuesday, Vladimir |
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