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How To!: A Savage Order: How the World's Deadliest Countries Can Forge a Path to Security

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🗓️ 10 January 2023

⏱️ 33 minutes

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It’s been two years since the January 6th riot at the US Capitol in Washington DC. Over 900 people have been criminally charged, but political violence continues to be a threat. Well, here at How To!, we are not content to just marinate in fear and blame so we’re dedicating two episodes to see how we can prevent more tragedies like January 6. In our first episode, we bring on Dr. Rachel Kleinfeld, senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace where she focuses on the intersection of democracy and security. She explains how the US has gotten to this point, how we should productively grapple with January 6, and why we’re not as close to the brink of civil war as it may seem. Next week, we’ll hear from Curtis Toler, a former Chicago gang member who is now a violence interrupter. If you liked this episode, check out: “How To Get Things Done in a Divided Nation with Samantha Power.” Do you have a question without an answer? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. Podcast production by Derek John, Rosemary Belson, and Kevin Bendis.   If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and exclusive content on many shows—you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on How To!. Sign up now at slate.com/howtoplus. Want a behind-the-scenes look at how we create the show? Check out Slate's Pocket Collections for research and reading lists, as well as additional insights into how we think about the stories behind the episodes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Once violence gets going, it really can take on a life of its own.

0:04.0

People can start committing violence because violence was committed against them or their group,

0:08.0

and it kind of spirals.

0:10.0

We're not there yet.

0:11.0

And I think that gives me a lot of hope.

0:13.0

If we really concertedly agreed that we didn't want our country to descend into that kind of a situation,

0:20.0

we have the ability to change it right now.

0:25.9

Welcome to how to. I'm Amanda Ripley.

0:29.6

It's been two years since the January 6th riot at the U.S. Capitol here in D.C.

0:34.3

And a lot has happened.

0:35.9

Over 900 people have been criminally charged, and about

0:39.3

half have pleaded guilty to one or more charges so far. But we know that the threat of political

0:45.0

violence remains dangerously high. The number of recorded threats against members of Congress

0:50.1

has jumped more than tenfold compared to 2016, coming in at the rate of about 26 per day.

0:56.0

This fall, a man was arrested for assaulting Nancy Pelosi's husband with a hammer in their home.

1:02.0

And in June, another man was arrested outside Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's house with a pistol, a knife, and zip ties.

1:10.0

It's tempting to dismiss these incidents as isolated, awful acts, but they reflect a broader

1:17.1

trend.

1:18.6

The American public's support for political violence is now nearing levels seen in Northern Ireland

1:24.1

at the height of the troubles there.

1:27.0

Well, here at How To, we are not content to just marinate in fear and blame.

1:32.3

We always want to know what to do next to start to climb out of the hole we are in.

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