How This Trump Trial Is Different
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4.3 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 June 2023
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump heads back to court, facing federal charges over the handling of sensitive documents after his presidential term ended. While the indictment looks bad for Trump, and he lost two lawyers from his team on Friday, there are silver linings for the ex-president.
Guest: Ankush Khardori, attorney and a former federal prosecutor in the U.S. Justice Department.
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| 0:00.0 | When Donald Trump walks into a Miami courthouse later today, it's very possible you're going |
| 0:10.6 | to be thinking to yourself, I've seen this show before, right? |
| 0:20.7 | After all, it was just a couple of months ago that Trump did this very same dance in Manhattan. |
| 0:26.2 | Back then, he was being charged by the local DA over hush money payments to stormy Daniels. |
| 0:31.8 | Now, he's being charged by the feds, who are alleging Trump crammed classified documents into a |
| 0:37.8 | bathroom and a ballroom at Mar-a-Lago, rather than turning them back in like you was supposed to. |
| 0:44.3 | But former federal prosecutor on Kush Cardori says the first thing you need to keep in mind |
| 0:49.0 | about today's court appearance is that this federal case in Florida is in a whole different league. |
| 0:55.7 | Well, look, the one in New York, it's an unusual case. |
| 0:59.0 | This was an unusual prosecution that uses the statute in an unusual way. |
| 1:03.4 | It does not mean that the case is invalid by any means, but it's an unusual case. |
| 1:09.0 | This federal indictment is, I think, much more easy for people to grasp, right? |
| 1:14.6 | They can understand the underlying conduct. |
| 1:16.5 | They can understand why it would be criminal, right? |
| 1:18.9 | Because of the seriousness of the material that's allegedly at issue in the documents that Trump received. |
| 1:24.2 | And they can understand why, when you receive a grand jury subpoena, |
| 1:27.5 | you should be honest and respond to it and not screw around and have your lawyers effectively lie |
| 1:32.8 | to the government on your behalf, at least as it's alleged in the indictment. |
| 1:35.8 | Yeah, I've heard this called a speaking indictment. |
| 1:38.3 | Right. So speaking indictment is an indictment that is more detailed and lengthier than it needs to be |
| 1:45.0 | in order to, among other things, educate the public about the conduct issue, right? |
| 1:49.0 | So this indictment, which is 44 pages, probably could have been four or five pages. |
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