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Apple News In Conversation

How this brutal sport took over America — and helped elect Donald Trump

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News Commentary, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The Ultimate Fighting Championship and the sport at its center, mixed martial arts, have exploded in popularity in recent years — and President Donald Trump is a fan. Trump and UFC CEO Dana White are also close friends, and have been for decades. For a story in Rolling Stone, Jack Crosbie details how the two have helped each other rise. Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu spoke with Crosbie about the integral link between Trump’s America and the UFC.

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0:00.0

This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shemitabasu. Today, what the rise of a violent sport reveals about Trump's America.

0:18.0

Less than two weeks after Donald Trump won the 2024 election, he showed up at Madison Square Garden for an ultimate fighting championship event.

0:28.4

And ladies and gentlemen, look who is now making his way to the world famous Octagon flanked by UFC CEO, Dana White,

0:40.2

45, soon to be 47,

0:44.2

President-elect Donald Trump.

0:47.2

Trump has been a fan of the UFC for years,

0:49.8

and his arrival that night showed that the UFC and its fans love him right back.

0:52.7

It's so loud. It is so loud.

0:57.4

It's always loud when he comes here, but now that he's won, now that he's the president again,

1:02.2

oh my God.

1:04.7

Dana White, the CEO of the UFC, led Trump through the tunnel into the arena as if Trump

1:09.9

were a fighter himself.

1:11.7

And Trump brought with him members of his inner circle,

1:14.6

many of whom have been appointed to key roles in his administration,

1:18.1

Elon Musk, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.

1:23.7

The mood walking into MSG was just kind of this street carnival of the MAGA movement.

1:32.3

That's Jack Crosby, a contributing writer for Rolling Stone. He was there that night in November.

1:38.3

You had people in full red, white, and blue outfits, you had seas of red hats everywhere. You had Trump t-shirts, Trump merch,

1:45.9

all over the place, people selling Trump stuff outside. Like, it was very much the expected

1:51.1

coronation of the next president. Jack told us this UFC event, coming on the heels of Trump's

1:57.7

election victory, was the ultimate display of not only Trump's popularity

2:01.7

and power, but also of the undeniable rise of the UFC, and the sport at its center mixed

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