Let's bring it go, man. Sam Silverman. Dude, we've been talking how many years now about doing this podcast? Yeah, we're probably a few years coming now, which is good. A few years coming now. And so, guys, this is the power of social media. I don't think either one of us had, like, too, too much going on on social media. I think we just got connected by mutual friends or something.

And both of us were doing interesting things, young guys,

and we had some similar interests.

You were able to leave corporate America in a really, really interesting and cool way.

And now the stuff that you're doing with roll-ups,

specifically with pavement roll-ups, you're saying this is going to be like a

generational walk-away check, you're thinking, right? Yeah, so it's interesting. Like, you go through

all these different phases of, you know, you build up to go leave corporate, you have some money,

you have the freedom to go do it. You didn't go through that phase of mind taking about two and a half

years of trying 10 different things to go figure out what is you want to go do. You buy yourself down. You think you're God's gift to entrepreneurship and that you should go you should go passively invest everywhere, right? Well, dude, the passively investing was one thing, but then just more of your time. Like money is you put a place and you're good, right? The timepiece a of it of focus, like I realize I'm someone that I cannot focus on a lot of things. And I've learned that very clearly that I need to go focus on one or two things very, very, very deeply. And in turn, have now this is the area where it's one worthwhile and two, like, very excited about a focus to go focus on just this one key thing for a very

very long time. No, I really like that. And we'll get into your backstory here. We'll take it all the

way back to you exiting corporate America. But first, to that point, what I've been working on right

now with like Hormosey, I went and was able to hang out with him and Lela at their acquisition headquarters.

And he has that new concept that he's talking about where he's like, man, I only have five or six shots on goal in my life because he says that anything meaningful is like a decade.

It takes a decade to build anything meaningful or at least like five,

six years. And so by the time you're 30, 40 years old, it's like you have one or two

moon shots left where they're like pitches down the middle and you got a freaking swing at them.

And so I thought that that was really interesting. That's how I've kind of been thinking about

business here lately as well. Because to your point where instead of doing 10 things kind of okay, like how do we do one or two things world class? And then that's where the economic return of the Delta is. So take us back, man, to corporate. So what was your corporate role and how are you able to get your initial escape? Because that's where a lot of people listening to the show are at right now. And then so we'll get them out of corporate through kind of some of your advice here and then take them to the next level. So mine in corporate, I started out in like the entry, entry level sales where I knew what I wanted to go do and I figured, hey, well, I figured out, let me go make some money. And right, you look at sales. I know your background's in sales too. And it's natural meritocracy. And what that means is that if you perform well, you can then earn more. It's not tied to your age, not tied to your tenure. It's purely numerical base, right? If you perform well, you will earn more money

and have more opportunity because it's what's best of the company. So start out in sales,

work my way up pretty quickly. I actually got hired from my first CEO from like a 30-person,

super small tech startup to go build out a bigger team. We grew that team from meeting the first

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