Hey podcasters so excited for the show today because it features another great conversation

in the how they got their series.

Today my conversation is with Daniel Jeremiah.

Daniel is the lead analyst on the NFL network as well as the co-host of the Move the Sticks

podcast. Now what I love about Daniel's story is how he pivoted from the dream of playing

in the NFL and was able to work his way up the ladder in media to where he is now.

You're going to love this encouraging conversation.

Alright Daniel so this is exciting.

It's always fun when you actually get to know somebody that you kind of follow on Twitter

and we get some mutual connections and I'm so excited about this conversation because

I think there's something about the broadcasting world that we see people on TV and we just

sort of think oh well he or she's really good and you know they just kind of got it

better than the rest of us.

They just kind of you know they're good and they look good and so there they are and we

don't realize how difficult the journey is for people and that's why I remind people

all the time of my show Daniel about my journey and how long it actually took and so I want

to go way back.

We both have very similar stories in that where preachers kids I'm curious.

Did you know at a certain point in your adolescence or even earlier that you might want to talk

on a microphone you might want to be in front of the camera?

Oh absolutely.

I mean that was my that's what I wanted to do since I was a little tiny kid.

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