Hey folks, I'm really excited for the show today because it features another great conversation

in our How They Got Their Series.

Today our conversation is with Kathy Heller.

Kathy is an author, career coach, and host of a popular podcast entitled Don't Keep Your

Day Job.

She started out as a singer, songwriter, and then found success licensing her music to

TV film and advertisements.

After making a multi-six-figure living with her music, Kathy started a music agency, and

then she began teaching other artists how to grow their own careers.

I love the conversation with Kathy, you're going to really get a lot out of it.

Here she is, Kathy Heller.

Well Kathy, this is fun.

I love stories where people just move forward, and they move forward with intentionality,

and they're okay if I got to stop, turn left, or turn right, or go backward a little

bit, but they just move forward, and you are a woman of action.

I love your Instagram feed, your show.

This is going to be a lot of fun for me, but let's go back because as I've done some homework

here on your story, you started out as a singer, songwriter, and to me, that is so exciting

because that's an intimidating thing to just like, I'm going to go after this and create

music.

It's a tough industry.

How were you when you would say, well, I officially started.

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